That's the thing. I've offered the seller a fair bit less than he was asking for, but I also split my offer depending on whether or not the 'extras' we've spoken about here are all present with the bike or not. To be frank, I switched the 'puter on this morning to find he's reject my offer/s. That's fair enough, the SPR is a rare bike, but the fact is I can buy the Blue/Silver 1000S for ÂŁ2000 less than I offered for the SPR, and significantly less than what the guy is asking for it! Having had both 750 Evo 3 and 1000S F4's in the past, from a road riding perspective, I favour the higher torque of the thou. If we were talking track riding it would be the SPR (every time), but I'd be buying either bike as an investment not to ride. :frown2: Much as I love F4's, I can't ride one any distance these days without developing aches and pains in my wrists and back, so if I can't get one cheap enough to make money on myself at some stage in the future, my cheque book will stay firmly in my pocket. I know that doesn't exactly answer your question. I'm sure you can check the classified ads yourself and find one or two examples of SPR's out there, this particular one has been for sale for quite some time, but of course its the seller's prerogative to keep it if he doesn't get an offer that suits. As for me, I think I'm going to go and have a closer look at the 1000S.