[exduc]

I have an old Aprilia Caponord ETV, and I love these Dakar style adventure bikes with the sit in seat and large tank. I always say they are like the swiss army knife of motorcycles because they are just so versatile. One of the reviewers compared the LXP to a sports bike on stilettos which sounds ideal for me in so far as I have always maintained you can cover many roads faster on one of these than a sports bike, particularly our typical B roads in this country, the extra ground clearance absorbing the undulations and despatching potholes without a second thought.

I am currently running in my Superveloce still on its normal pipe as the Arrow pipe requires the ECU change. It is my first bike with a quickshifter and I get a funny kind of kickback through the clutch lever on downshifts using the clutch. It's like a bit of drag at the lever when disengaging the clutch. It might be where it is all bedding in or maybe it's a quirk of quickshifters but can't see that.

So the LXP Ti pipe doesn't come with a different ECU. All the reviewers loved the sound just with the stock pipe so even better to have a bit more of the aural performance. The 931cc looks great on paper. What does the limiter come in at, I guess you haven't been there yet.

Great to see you are enjoying it properly.

Haven’t been near the limiter yet. The engine has plenty of torque. Very smooth and linear delivery. I was actually a bit surprised how tourquey it is. Love it…

 

[exduc]

I would really like to hear how this bike holds up in the dirt.

Once you look it over you’ll quickly understand that it’s extremely well built. It has all the ingredients. Just the wheelset alone is impressive. Honestly, I didn’t buy this bike for extreme off-road. I have a Touareg for that. This bike is more my do-all, go anywhere ride. So far, every dirt and gravel road (some fairly washed out) wasn’t remotely a problem. Ride one…you see.

 

[Nito]

Won’t be long now. It has arrived at the dealer!! Being told next weekend.

 

[italia]

Oooooooh. Look at all those new Norton Commando 961's

 

[Nito]

Oooooooh. Look at all those new Norton Commando 961's

They were due to have 11 Nortons arrive. The driver arrived and said I’ve got 12 bikes for you. They were all perplexed, what’s the 12th bike?! Lo and behold it was the LXP.

 

[Terrys409]

The air intake, I'm assuming, dual fans, and the can are unique features esthetically.

 

[Nito]

Mine should have been ready tomorrow but apparently there are updates from the factory required, I asked what and apparently some bolts need changing?! No further info but if you've taken delivery might be worth checking if there are any outstanding updates. Should get mine in September now for the new '74' registrations in the UK.

 

[Nito]

Collected mine today in a van

I’m looking forward to the first ride!. Thanks to all the guys and gals at Krazy Horse.

 

[number2]

Oooooooh. Look at all those new Norton Commando 961's

I knew Kevin would like that.

 

[Nito]

Double post- edited.

 

[Nito]

Hmmm.

No user manual comes with the bike. You have to scan a QR code and create an account to download it or pay 39.50 euros if you want a printed one.

Only one Active key with the bike and one passive key as opposed to a matching pair.

Not a fan of the electronic fuel flap. Seems like a solenoid failure to pop the flap will only be a matter of time away, totally unnecessary complication.

 

[esq'z me]

Seems strange, from a liability standpoint, to not supply the printed owner manual.
I'm sure in the USA this would lead to massive lawsuits. This is why all manufacturers allow free downloads from their web sites for owner manuals going back years .......in case your used bike didn't come with it. Liability. Not Workshop Manuals...those you must pay for.
And only one key will actually start the bike ??? That's weird too. Why bother providing any spare key at all?
Surely there is a way to open the fuel lid in case of electrical failure...
I think I would send an inquiry to MV about that one.
So how is the road test ?

 

[Nito]

The annoying thing with the manual was although it was free, it wasn’t just a direct link, you had to register, you had to tick consent boxes for the usual bs, it’s just not right to have to go through more grief and data harvesting to get something that should have come with it. Also, all the error messages etc are all in German, I wasted about an hour just to get a pdf of the manual, it’s not the wonderful ownership experience it should and could have been, and something that was always such a big part of the MV ownership experience. They have got this wrong and ought to swiftly put it right imho. (I still have one box to open so if a user manual ends up in there I’ll report back with a large serving of humble pie 😂)

I will need to check on a potential override for the fuel flap, I certainly hope there is because my experience of the electric one so far is poor.

With regards to the key, I thought it odd too so I read the manual. You can’t turn ignition on with key in your pocket but there is a way to touch the transponder under the seat to passively disarm it which is something. But again, for the money, there should be two matching keys.

That’s not all either, there is lots more related to apps and services and having to sign up and consent just to have things work and it’s all buggy like we are their beta testers.

This one for example is optional but it feels very big brother which I’m not at all comfortable with and its the same road Mercedes went down.

Here is some of the wording;

Service Description
PIERER Industrie AG conducts vehicle analytics for certain motorcycles (depending on technical
functionality). This Service Description informs you of the details on how we process your personal data.
We process the following data for the purposes listed below:
Data Purpose Legal Basis
Classification of environmental
conditions (climatic profile and
driven route profile), analysis of
the vehicle load (structure,
chassis, engine), identification of
rider profiles (driving style,
driving ability, driven load
condition (sozius, luggage)
Analyze performance data
of motorcycle to gain better
understanding of vehicle
usage and load.
Article 6(1)(a) GDPR (Consent)
Statistical data including:
number of cold starts, gear
shifts, wheelies
Develop, test, and improve
our motorcycle products.
Article 6(1)(a) GDPR (Consent)
Data transfer
We only disclose your data to the extent necessary for each specific purpose, or as required under the
relevant legal provision, in line with any legitimate interest or, in the case of consent, as specified by
you.
Furthermore, we sometimes use service providers, known as processors, for data processing (in
particular for technical implementation). These processors are carefully selected by us and bound by
our instructions. We request the services of the following processors in particular:
• KTM AG
• KTM Forschungs- und Entwicklungs GmbH
• PIERER Innovation GmbH
We may transfer some of your data to a country that is not an EEA country. According to the European
Commission, this country ensures an adequate level of data protection.
Storage duration
We will anonymize your data after 3 years. If, in a specific case, it is necessary for the establishment,
exercise or defence of legal claims, to store your data for a longer period, we may do so. This continued
storage is based on Article 6(1)(f) GDPR (our legitimate interest to establish, exercise or defend legal
claims) and / or Article 9(2)(f) GDPR (establishment, exercise or defence of legal claims).
Data Sources
In general, we collect the data directly from your motorcycle.

 

[Nito]

Ps, Haven’t test ridden yet, my insurers don’t have the details on their system yet so it needs referring which might take a week or so. Also found out the LXP is limited to 100mph because of the knobblies according to the manual. This explains why there are two tyre TC settings. I guess if you select road tyres it would go faster, possibly a legal liability thing as fitted with m+s tyres!

 

[Nito]

double post

 

[esq'z me]

I think I would contact MV directly to make a formal complaint and request correction (such as a printed manual in your language), and write a legal letter informing them you do not consent to the data harvesting.
Open the other box, and go for an uninsured ride around the neighborhood. I would.

 

[Nito]

To be fair, the data I posted above is an optional one so I did opt out, there is only one that is mandatory.

The dealer asked for my email to register the bike with Pierer Group. I then receive an email
asking for me to create a log in etc where my digital bike would be waiting in the garage. Again I went through the rigmarole, signed up to yet another account, the digital bike isn’t there, and again all the usual consent were required.

So now I have two accounts, one with PG one with MV, two apps (Ride and Mobisat), personally I don’t like this software IT heavy crossover with bikes. Where the Ago had a race ecu in the box, going forward it will be done by dealers with up maps according to the dealer tech.

I had high hopes for Pierer Group and on the whole think they have been doing a good job, but I do hope they don’t get all German and KTM on us with these little things because it is not just about the bike and the whole creating an account where you can pay for extea services smacks of future subscription based offerings.

 

[Nito]

I opened the last box. No user manual.

I have made friends with the electrical fuel cap, it must have been stiff where it is new, it is loosening up after quite a few goes and is working ok now.

I couldn’t find any mechanical override for it in the instructions, I still think it’s not a great idea over a key fuel cap but its there so fingers crossed it proves reliable!

 

[aegisranger]

 

[Nito]

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Oooh, what make top box did you go with? I fitted a Hepco Xplorer to mine on a Hepco universal bracket. I already had the Hepco box and I'm not paying MV £800 for their small metal one.

I'll try and post some pics...