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Hey everybody im new to the forum and currently ride a Ninja 650 which i love but looking to upgrade to bigger and better things... Im torn between the new 2013 MV Agusta F3 or the 2013 Triumph 675r. Ive ridden japanese bikes my whole life and all i know about these bikes is from what ive seen and read. Im looking for educated advice on these 2 bikes on which you recommend i get and why, and if you have any experience with these bikes...thanks in advanced.
 

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your on an mv site so im tipping we will stear towards the mv
welcome to the site
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When you say "bigger & better things" I'd argue that you're only going slightly bigger. I mean, doing the maths on this, the difference in cubic centimeters from the Ninja 650 to either of the 675 bikes you mention is only 25 cubic centimeters larger.
That's only about 3.9% bigger.
Are you sure you're setting your sights high enough?
 

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If you spend time on the forum as well as keep upto date with MCN reports you will read that the F3 is apparently a stunning bike but has many pitfalls including the initial mapping which has now been fixed, pretty intidy wiring and various other initial problems which go hand in hand with the introduction of a new bike. I will be open and say I have never liked the F3 even from initial design but to say that on an MV forum, you tend to get slated, so I will let others tell you how wonderfull it is.
http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46507

On the other hand I cannot praise the Triumph 675r enough, this is one amazing bike which has been proven time after time both on track and road, it looks amazing and if you see both the F3 and Triumph 675r side by side, I still prefer the Triumph.

The thing is; and note this!! if you go to a scottish MV dealer & compair both, have a chat with the sales you will definately be steered towards the triumph. Its an amazing bike which shows results and has the back up after sales service you need and expect, unlike MV.

I have owned 3 MV's - both the F4 750 EV03 and the F4 312R from brand new and then due to crap design and quality of parts of the later bikes, as well as absolutely crap back up aftersales, I opted for a F4 1000s next as I thought no piont paying an arm and a leg to MV when they cannot provide spares or a decient aftersales. hence I bought a 2nd hand well cared for F4 1000s from a really decent guy on this forum, I know the history of the bike and know it has been well looked after without paying a silly price.
So I am not directing you away from the F3 due to not liking MV's, but I do have experience of pure shit aftersales back-up. (apart from the 1000s where the salesman has been excellent, also a good friend).

Remember the new 2013 Triumph675r as you will be aware has changed considerably from the 2012 model and you should be able to get excellent deals on the amazing looking 2012 triumph due to this. They have also taken away the underseat exhaust and changed it to side mount for better centre of gravity handling (can you get any better handling than what they have already)?

As I previously said, My local dealer who stocks both the F3 and the Triumph could not speak highly enough about the Triumph, spoke about the pitfalls of both and advised the Triumph was the much better bike.

Remember you will be a "tester" for the F3 as they are still finding many faults

what ever way you decide to go, good luck and enjoy


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That's going to go down well here Roy!:laughing::laughing:

I honestly don't know what I would buy, i'm having as much trouble with Aprilia spares as I did with MV, so maybe that's an Italian thing,(although my experience with Ducati spares was always positive) all I want is a new front wheel after the tyre fitter managed to mangle mine and up to now it's been a month and Aprilia go on their summer break next week.

The same type of thing happened with my F41000S when some clown fell off behind me and bent my rear wheel in July of that year, my new wheel appeared in October, so with MV/Aprilia etc any spare 'crucial' to your bike being on the road may end that years riding.

I would have to ride the two bikes then have a think, without riding them my heart says MV but my head says Triumph purely for the back up/after sales................just as my head is now saying (about the Aprilia) sell the POS and buy another S1000RR
 

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Just been through this exact scenario with my wife. She had an ER6n and was torn between waiting for the Brutale (Australian market) or going with the proven Street Triple R. The Street and Brutale are almost identical in power, torque and weight. The Brutale has a few more electronic bells and whistles but misses out on fully adjustable suspension if I recall correctly.

She settled on the Triumph in the end and I must say it's an awesome little machine. Her reasoning was that the performance difference is neglible, it's a known quantity and is less hassle to own than an MV (we have a Triumph dealer locally, closest MV dealer is 2hrs away). This all suited me fine as I had just sold my Speed Triple and was considering a Brutale, which I bought. Couldn't both be riding bikes of the same brand now could we :)


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You have to have a certain passion to own an MV,it helps in dealing with the niggles. Get the Triumph.
 

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When you say "bigger & better things" I'd argue that you're only going slightly bigger. I mean, doing the maths on this, the difference in cubic centimeters from the Ninja 650 to either of the 675 bikes you mention is only 25 cubic centimeters larger.
That's only about 3.9% bigger.
Are you sure you're setting your sights high enough?
Easier to understand if you've had the opportunity to ride both. Don't get me wrong , the Ninja 650 is not a bad bike but it's really only slightly better than a glorified commuter. The Street is a far superior bike in many aspects
 

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Reading posts on this site made me aware of the pitfalls of MV ownership but that didn't stop me trading my brilliant Street Triple for a 1090rr Brutale best motorcycling decession I made. If practical considerations are your main priority when buying a bike perhaps you should be thinking about buying a car instead.

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ooh yea

Reading posts on this site made me aware of the pitfalls of MV ownership but that didn't stop me trading my brilliant Street Triple for a 1090rr Brutale best motorcycling decession I made. If practical considerations are your main priority when buying a bike perhaps you should be thinking about buying a car instead.

Bev
Well said me'lady :yo:
 

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Easier to understand if you've had the opportunity to ride both. Don't get me wrong , the Ninja 650 is not a bad bike but it's really only slightly better than a glorified commuter. The Street is a far superior bike in many aspects
Yes, I'd agree that the is a far superior bike, which accounts for the "Better" component of "Bigger & Better".
However, the bigger part.....I'm still not convinced. Statistically.

Please don't take me seriously on this subject though, I'm just a geek with a computer. :nerd:
 

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10000 miles on the Daytona in 18 months, 1800 miles on the F3 in two months. After the initial mapping problems which have now been resolved, my views our:
Steering/Handling: F3
Braking: F3
Acceleration/Power: F3
Comfort: 675
Town Riding 675
Gear Change: No difference
Fuel Consumption: 675. F3 is in the region of 33/35 per gallon
Tank Range: 675, F3 25/30 miles less, which can be an inconvenience
Ease of use from lights/standing start: 675
Lights: Never have any need to use the bike at night
Style/Looks: No contest
Public/Motorcyclist Interest: Again No contest

Without doubt the F3 prefers to run at higher revs to that of the 675. Using one gear lower on the F3

Reliability, only time will tell, but did have problems with oil/water leaks and the quick shifter on the 675
 

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Have you seen the pipes on the F3. Horny.:mouthwate
Have you seen the poxy tack welds!!

not so Horny when they fall off through time with corrosion.

also if you have a chance, check the cut edge of the actual pipes coming out the box, not the purely cosmetic ones that suround, be carefull not to touch though, unless you want cut fingers.

:)
 

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Buy a used MV F41000 R

You won't suffer massive depreciation as you ride out of the showroom.

Any "new bike" niggles will have been sorted.

You will be able to service it yourself or with a tech of your choice.

There will be a wealth of knowledge on the forum to assist you.

You will be able to buy parts yourself from friends and forum sponsors and so avoid lengthy waits for parts from Italy.

There are some fantastic deals out there...

Having gone both ways I can tell you that buying brand new MV can be a trail of tears because of time your bike can sit waiting for warranty parts. But a nice MV on the road is a joy for sure and the decision as to whether a Triumph or an MV isn't a question I would need to ask myself ; )

joe
 

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Hey everybody im new to the forum and currently ride a Ninja 650 which i love but looking to upgrade to bigger and better things... Im torn between the new 2013 MV Agusta F3 or the 2013 Triumph 675r. Ive ridden japanese bikes my whole life and all i know about these bikes is from what ive seen and read. Im looking for educated advice on these 2 bikes on which you recommend i get and why, and if you have any experience with these bikes...thanks in advanced.

Comes on a MV site - 1st question is the above.

There's no follow up. Beyond one post there's nothing.

Either a massive piss take or Roy's "anti-any model past 2006" advice hit the spot! :eek:

I taking bets on the former - at least you all (& now me) got to add to our post counts :laughing: :laughing:
 

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F3 & F4RR - Please Take One

Your right, just one post, perhaps staying ninja?

one thing; I aint anti any model past 2006, just going on experience of what I have owned with the EV03, 1000s and 312R

if someone came up and gave me a F3 or F4RR I would happily take them, but I certainly would not pay silly money for one, so if you wish to give away your F3, feel free, I will gladly take it.

forget the "anti 2006" Rob, that is incorrect
Sorry my mistake, I thought you topped out the R - I didn't realise it was a 312R. At least those posts on this thread (obviously angling for a PR gig with MV Agusta Italy) got you a mention, you've gotta be happy with that. :)

Really? You'd take my F3 or a F4RR for free? I'm astounded, dumfounded and speechless :laughing:
 
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