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What do you guys think about waterless coolants like Evans? It seems like the way to go and I don`t see a downside except cost, but it`s lifetime so you only pay once. You also don`t need to drain it and fill with water like you do with glycol if track riding like some organizations require.
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What do you guys think about waterless coolants like Evans? It seems like the way to go and I don`t see a downside except cost, but it`s lifetime so you only pay once. You also don`t need to drain it and fill with water like you do with glycol if track riding like some organizations require.
https://www.evanscoolant.com/
Why wouldn't you need to drain it at the track? It's still 85% ethylene glycol. It also has a lower heat capacity and specific heat than water or 50-50 mix does.
 

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I bought a racing 4 wheeler once that had engine ice in it. Would this help with heating issues?
 

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Engine Ice is Propylene Glycol and works better at heat reduction.

PG (Engine Ice) is also better for the environment, non-toxic and not slippery on a surface so many track organizations allow it.

It has been discussed in many threads within MVAGUSTA.net
 

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Actually propylene glycol is extremely slippery. I have walked on it during aircraft deicing usage and it`s like wet snow. This description indicates it is slippery. Apparently it is much easier to cleanup than ethylene glycol is, which may be why usage is OK at some venues. Prior discussions within MV AGUSTA.net don`t seem to have all the answers.

Product Overview
• PG Type IV Aircraft Anti-icing Fluid (AAF) • SAE AMS 1428 PG-based Type IV aircraft
anti-icing fluid
• SAE AMS 1424 PG-based Type I aircraft
deicing fluid
• Dow manufactures propylene glycol (PG)-based aircraft deicing fluids (ADF) under the trade name UCAR PG ADF and a PG-based aircraft anti-icing fluid (AAF) under the trade name UCAR FlightGuardTM AD-49 PG AAF. These products conform to industry standards set by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) International, including Aerospace Material Specification (AMS) 1424 and AMS 1428.1 For further details, see Product Description.
• ADFs are commercial products used exclusively for the removal of snow, ice, and frost from the exterior surfaces of aircraft.2 AAF is typically applied following aircraft deicing or during active precipitation to prevent additional snow or ice build-up over an extended period of time. AAF can also be used as a preventive by applying to dry aircraft when overnight frost is forecast.3 For further details, see Product Uses.
• Eye contact with these fluids may cause slight, temporary irritation, although corneal injury is unlikely. Prolonged skin contact is essentially nonirritating. Repeated contact may cause flaking and softening of the skin. At room temperature, exposure to vapor is minimal; however, vapor from heated material may cause respiratory irritation and other effects.4 For further details, see Health Information.
• Worker exposure is possible during product formulation or during aircraft deicing or anti-icing operations.4These fluids are commercial-grade products and are not available for home use. For further details, see Exposure Potential.
• These products are thermally stable at typical storage and use temperatures. Some components of these products can decompose at elevated temperatures, causing pressure build-up in closed systems. Avoid contact with strong acids, strong bases, and strong oxidizers. Areas sprayed with these fluids (such as the tarmac) may become slippery.4,5 For further details, see Physical Hazard Information.
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There is more in ADF than propylene glycol.

Perhaps I should have said "not as"...

Pure water is your best heat transfer solution, but it does nothing for corrosion nor freeze protection.
 

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Yes straight water is as good as anything for cooling. Propylene glycol is definitely slippery. It just cleans up easier and that`s one reason airports use it and maybe some tracks allow it. Like you said it does seem to be better on the environment. So I guess just the standard 50/50 mix is as good as anything. I wasn`t as worried about cooling as corrosion resistance. So in that case no-rosion seems like a good bet. Propylene Glycol is actually used in sex lubricants.

What's In My Lube? Your Guide to Personal Lubricant Ingredients ...
www.astroglide.com/.../what-s-in-my-lube--your-guide-to-personal-lubricant-ingredie...
Propylene Glycol as a Personal Lubricant Ingredient ... These features help propylene glycol to keep lubricants wetter longer while also adding a slippery feel ...
 

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It's also used in the preservation of food products...like pickles...a connection?>:)
 
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