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A few days ago I started a thread on this board and on many other rider's forums about a terrible craigslist experience I had. I was selling various motorcycle protective gear on CL and the guys that bought them from me gave me counterfeit cash. They drove off with my gear before I could stop them. I made a very detailed sketch of the bastards and posted it on many forums hoping fellow honest riders would recognise them. I had their email account and phone number posted as well. Thankfully many cyber sleuths were able to find their FACEBOOK and MYSPACE and other cyber footprints they made online. Even more awesome was the fact that fellow riders that read my post saw the A$$holes at a local biker hangout WEARING MY GEAR !!They kindly TOOK PICTURES OF THEM and THEIR MOTORCYCLES and THE LICENCE PLATES TO THOSE MOTORCYCLES!!! They have forwarded them to me and I in turn have forwarded them to the LEOs that I gave my statement to. I have actually been talking to 3 different agencies (including the Secret Service) and ALL OF THEM say they appreciate the info but THEY ARE NOT DOING A THING ABOUT IT FOR NOW. That really dissappoints me. Can someone explain why any decent law enforcement agency won't go aftrer these punks?

I have:
- their sketches
- their email
- their phone number
- their facebook and myspace accounts
- 3 megapixels photos of their bikes with the plates
- 3 megapixels photos of those scumbags wearing my gear
- 3 megapixels photos of my gear when I was in possession of them
- ads I had of the gear on craigslist
- witnesses to them bragging about what they did to me

What's so hard about connecting these dots and nabbing these guys?
Is it still difficult to get them with all this info I am handing over on a silver platter? I would have no problem picking them out in a lineup.

Please! If there is anyone here that have any clout with LEOs, help me out here! I want my gear back or at least have these guys pay me what they owe in real cash.

I am also very sure this is not the first time they have done this to a person selling stuff on CL. They way they moved to take my stuff and pay me real fast and drive off was very coordinated. It all happened in less than 2 seconds. Its also very likely these guys used counterfeit cash to buy their exotic race bikes as well. Catching these jerks would lead to solving other crimes and definitely prevent future ones. I am temped to repost the original thread as well as upload the pages of the older threads I saved in my cache (one of them was 11 pages long in 2 hours!) so people can see for themselves the history of how fast the online public were able to find who these guys were.

In one of my original threads about these incidents, a LEO asked me to delete all the threads about this due to the fact that it may tip my hand and lead to vigilante justice. He didn't want their photos and identities to be known by everyone in Nor Cal and have anyone get hurt if someone was to make them suffer for what they did. I complied with his request thinking that once I give all this info to the LEOs they would act on the intell and get the suspects. So far I have learned that THEY WILL DO NOTHING. 3 DIFFERENT AGENCIES SAID THEY WILL DO NOTHING.

I learned a hard and expensive lesson here folks so I want every rider here to be forewarned about these scumbags.
 

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Here are the Bastards. The one wearing the Alpinestars blue and white leather jacket calls himself by the name of Omar. You can also see my leather YAMAHA brand jacket in the background.
 

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This is a forwarded message from fellow riders that spotted the counterfeiters at a jamba juice in Sacramento. I recognize the 2 Latino males in the photos 100%. The taller Latino shaved his face but I am absolutlely certain that is the bastard that handed me the fake money! Fellow cyber sluethes online at the rider's forums found their facebook and myspace accounts:

LINKS DELETED PENDING POLICE INVESTIGATION
 

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Man I feel for you, Im sure you are feeling very frustrated with these guys and the authorities. Remain calm though and dont do anything stupid. Keep trying the legal route. Its never nice having people take you for a mug, I have had recent experience with this. But I kept perservering and finally got the right people to take notice of someones wrong doings. Keep your chin up.
 

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Contact local FBI asap. You can use google maps , search local FBI offices. A special agent will definately go after them based in the fact they are ditributing counterfeit money.
 

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Fake Money

This is a forwarded message from fellow riders that spotted the counterfeiters at a jamba juice in Sacramento. I recognize the 2 Latino males in the photos 100%. The taller Latino shaved his face but I am absolutlely certain that is the bastard that handed me the fake money! Fellow cyber sluethes online at the rider's forums found their facebook and myspace accounts:


I´m confused and maybe I missed it in your description, but could you please define what you mean by "fake" money.

Also, when you contact anyone regarding this (police, law enforcement, or the perps) get a name and phone number and document each conversation.
 

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Woops

My bad, your explanation was in the first line. If they did indeed give you counterfeit money, the FBI would very much be interested in meeting with these individuals.

Good luck and let us know how this turns out.
 

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I can understand if the LEO's are gathering evidence, obtaining warrants/wiretaps etc. They are probably trying to figure out if they are small time or part of a larger counterfeit ring. It doesnt make sense to bust the little guys if they can lead them to the source. I would play it cool for a week or two and get updates from the detectives. If after a few weeks you feel they are blowing you off, flame on! Post their pics on as many boards as possible. I would also take out CraigsList ads and post their pics daily in the for sale section to warn other potential marks in the bay area. You are not responsible for the actions of others. They might try to sue you if they got the shit kicked out of them but no jury in the world would side with scum like them. The LEO who told you this was just pounding his chest and trying to get you to back off and not to scare them into laying low. Its sad one of them rides a F4. Small community here.
 

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Sorry to hear about your bad experience but I agree - play it cool and see if anything happens. Don't do anything rash - if it's anything like the UK if you beat the s**t into these guys the law would come down on you like a ton of bricks.... then you would get a criminal record AND you would likely be in the same situation as you are now regarding your kit - the law's an arse and seems to favour the scumbags.

It may be as pointed out above - they are tracing up through the little men to get the guys higher up, particularly if they are using counterfeit money. Hang in there...
 

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I thought fake money was the Secret Service's area
It is as they are under the Tres Dept. I got a fake $1 bill, yes one dollar bill a few years ago in a casino. I showed it to a pit boss. He just wrote down the serial number and gave it back to me! Apparently the slot machines hadn't caught up with the batter fakes yet.

BTW Im going to cross post this thread on ADVrider.com I think the membership is well above 50,000 riders over there.
 

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PS Ren,

This is not a CL issue. CL simply facilitated the meeting between you and the seller. It would be like posting a want-ad in your local newspaper that your car was for sale, then after you get ripped off, you blame the paper. Please don´t take this as harsh criticism. I would agree CL would be partially responsible if they performed the transaction of money.

Now that you have a police report (case number and a copy of the police report), there´s nothing you can do but wait.

By the way, which agency took posession of the counterfeit money? How much money was exchanged? Was all of the money fake?

I have to admit, I´m enjoying your post. If what you´re telling us is true, it will be fun to watch them get wrapped up. I mean with all the materialistic "stuff" they own, they´re not going to get far.
 
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