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Was told of the latest gadget our police officers are now using for 'safety measures'. On the Brisbane northside last weekend they were pulling over bikers and checking their exhaust emmissions with an exhaust gas analyser.
Those who have removed their cats were given a ticket for 4 points and $600!
 

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Mate, I wish I was shocked.....But I'm not. just another revenue raiser, for poor Gov management that all....

Look out for the Point to Point Speed/Scamera's roll out :jsm: Just saying.....Does something sound wrong here....

Then the Gold Coast Police Helicopter has to earn its ROI on HWP.....:blah:

We're doomed :confused:
 

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It gets worse - same offence within 12 months = double points = getting real close to licence suspension!

Our state govt needs as much $ as it can get to continue to feed the pigs at the trough.
 

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Mate it does not matter what excuse they put on the table. it is all a load of political crap to feed the purists who , without all this mighty "oh to do better " bullshit would not have a job.

they need to justify their existence and to get their bonuses for a job well done.

Its about time we got a bike rider into parliament who could piss off all this crap and get us what we really want....somewhere safe to ride our bikes that does not cost us an arm and a leg for the priveliege of a days outing.

Ohh ,by the way , I nearly forgot , they are trying all sorts of crap here in S.A also.

got pulled over by a mass barrage of our finest , stopping all bikes in all directions looking for , in particular , ROTATING AND HIDDEN NUMBER PLATES

well fuck me... how unsafe is that for a rider and the environment.

all they ended up doing to 4 out of 5 of the group was give a ticket for the number plate being too high ( needs to be at a 45 degree angle to a line drawn between the 2 axles to the bottom of the reflector which needs to sit on the mudgaurd ).

well fuck me over again , that also will make you fall off your bike and other cars not see you I,m sure.

you got me started ya buggers...better go before I get kicked off the site for getting impassionate about beaurocracy.:yo:
 

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Well in the UK they could do better by stopping aggressive driving and tailgating is the norm for car drivers...Speed is just one part of the equation..

So far as rotating and undersized/ badly angled number plates are concerned..why give them an excuse ?

The exhaust thing is an "offence" I guess but the points and fine is heavy handed. The law is the law tho and I would say a bike should be recorded as defective and then the owner given a 7 day rectification notice and instruction to have the bike tested at a test centre with the cost of a test...

I know that here in the UK if you alter your bike and don't tell your insurers..you aren't covered....One insurer even including non standard decals as an alteration ...The point is the bigger the claim ..the deeper they'll dig...

I would guess that if I took the cat off my bike and didn't advise the insurers..I'd find my cover null and void..not a good place to be...

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While we are on the subject of petty fines,never leave your keys in your bike in Queenland.I was at Mt Glorious,boys in blue pulled up,walked along and booked around 6 owners,Fuck man the owners were only 3 meters from there bikes having a coffee.Could not believe my eyes,also while I am having a winge,what happens when 6 Harley's go past the law pumping out the same decibel level as a Boeing 747,the police look the other way,something is very wrong.
 

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Apparently an internal bean counter calculated the revenue possibilities, based on a figure of 1/3 of modern bikes (with cat as std) have had their exhaust modded/replaced. Income will be in the 10's of millions.

Captain Bli and her cronies gave the OK to proceed, to help pay for the latest pay increase. Mitch, it will be ongoing, along with the mobile noise level meters, rear fender gauges.

For the record, the following are first for the Man to check if he didn't get his jollies last night:
- mirror size - a number of the Rizoma handlebar mirrors are too small in area
- rear indicator spacing - there is a minimum distance apart
- rear fender length - can't wait for mine to be scrutinised. It is stock std and may not pass, but it has been through ADR
- rego tubes are a definite ticket attraction. It is not an offence to not have a rego sticker. Do not admit to having it under the seat. That will get you a ticket for incorrect display.
- aftermarket exhaust. The guys I ride with carry with them an engineers certificate that says the exhaust is compliant for noise. A roadworthy is not sufficient. The E3 sticker or engraving is best.

Remember that once you get a ticket for the same offence 3 times, your bike can be impounded and disposed of under the hooning laws. One of my ride group ignored his tickets for his slip-on and lost his BKing. He bought it back, but it cost a lot of $ and stress! (Finance companies don't like it when the asset is no longer available for them to seize if the loan goes bad)

I was planning to decat and microtec my Brutie. I have now put that off for a while. I am hoping that the microtec is easily switchable with respect to the O2 sensor function.
 

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Does that mean my bike would not pass with the Bodis system:jsm:
Having ridden your bike Mitch, I would be calling Officer Plod "Sir" :jsm: Even if he is half your age :stickpoke

Aural nirvana to us........undue noise to him.

No wonder why I hardly ever ride on the road. I accept the risks to my safety, but I do not accept being targeted and made to pay for BS infarctions :bash:

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Naaaaa.....I call it Un-Australian :cross: Where does it start, not the poor police (hard job/little thanks). No..... its with our elected bureaucrats like Triple says........ I can hardly wait to vote the basteds out :bash:
 

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Not trying to upset a good cop-hate thread here, but what possible purpose is there for having rotating number plates beside intending to ride dangerously without being caught?

Prior planning, constructing a device, adding substantial weight - well before actually riding in such a way that you know will be illegal.

When I was but a lad riding a taxpayers bike, I dealt with a fatal accident caused by a rider on a Darwin mission. He had such a device, as did his mates that he was riding with. They had windscreen motors mounted in such a way that a button raised the plate. He was no longer around to give an explanation but the others came out with rehearsed bullshit about being essential for track-days. Apparently a strip of gaffer tape is far too heavy for the track.

The innocent car driver who was struck by this empty-head was still traumatised many months later - and probably still is.

But it's all about the revenue, right?
 

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Welcome to the new world order guys, next we will all be micro chiped.
police state is here, we must stand up for our rights before we have none left. :jsm:
 

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Harvey, this was not intended as a cop hate thread at all. They are acting on instructions from the upper hierarchy and the state govt.
 

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I was pulled over coming back from my dealer on a Saturday morning for a RBT test and I thought here I go will be booked for noise,the 4 police swarmed around the bike and just said man that is a beautiful bike,see you later.The police are trying there hardest to scare off riders from places like Mt Glorious,and they use as many weapons they can get there hands on.I will just stay away from the favorite bike runs,there are plenty of other roads to ride on where you only see the local police which are probably not armed with emmision analysers etc,just my opinion.
 

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Harvey, this was not intended as a cop hate thread at all. They are acting on instructions from the upper hierarchy and the state govt.
OK, but everyone has a boss giving the instructions. Whether it's a customer or a bank manager wanting the mortgage paid.

In this case the politicians/chiefs have set objectives, possibly to reduce road casualties (also maybe to raise funds). The cops will always take the easy route, ie they know that bikers will kill themselves more than supermarket shoppers. Therefore they will enforce certain legislation.

The politicians also face questions from the electorate, in my area the same complaints always arise: dog turds on the footpaths, buses running late and bikes making noise. Therefore don't be surprised when these issues get raised in priority when votes are needed.

The cop has most likely worked hard to get a good posting and if he doesn't comply with the boss, he's fired and someone else will do that job.

Therefore, basic stuff. Keep a reasonably sensible number plate, quiet silencer, treaded tyres and slow down when you see speed limit signs. As in rigid compliance - it's not big and it's not clever. Keep the hooning for the rural areas.

Most officers will be able to sustain their ticket quota without examining the law books too closely - and many will be very sympathetic to bikers, being one themselves. There are enough stupid people easily caught to worry about the difficult ones.

Understand the mentality of the foe and the battle will run a little easier. I've done my share of tearing up the countryside over the years but I've never come close to getting a ticket.
 

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The facts are ,real cops who protect us do not like traffic cops,how do I know my nephew is a proper cop.I have great respect for him.If I break the law speeding I will cop it sweet but just to pull me over and give me a ticket for no cat or emmisions well thats just fund raising in my books.
hey harvey what model speed gun is that lol.:smoking:
 

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Yeah there are loads of cops who don't like the Traffic dept, usually for some mythological reason that 'they will book their own grandmother'. Well I can tell you that you will get much more leeway from a traffic cop who catches you speeding than you will ever get from a detective who catches you shoplifting.

I never heard of anybody being ticketed for emissions or cat - that's just for the MOT inspection. But anyone who flipped a revolving plate would incite instant red mist. That would be taken very personally by any cop I know.

A revolving mechanism is not actually illegal in the UK, all the idiots involved in my tale of woe were allowed to continue using them (the surviving ones anyway).
 

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I never heard of anybody being ticketed for emissions or cat - that's just for the MOT inspection.
This is happening now in Queensland, Australia. The local exhaust guys are extremely busy fitting cats and doing emissions and noise testing.

Totally agree with the flipping plates, that is not acceptable. I didn't want to start a debate. I thought it appropriate to warn people of what is happening (fact, not rumour, opinion or hearsay), so that they can make their own minds up as to what they choose to do.
 
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