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I fear I can see the writing on the wall. With MV closing up shop in the USA as far as parts, and my local dealer down to one bike in stock, has the company decided to go the way of Benelli and leave American buyers stranded? My local shop is backed up 10 months on warranty repairs due to absolutely no parts availability. They were the #1 dealer in the USA and always had a full line of bikes in stock. Now Aprilia has slid into that position to fill up the sales floor. It is so bad that the service advisor will flat out tell you that you are an idiot for considering buying an MV.
I have heard that the owner of the company has said there is no way to make money on the bikes sold in the USA, and that he may not offer the F3 here. I can't blame a company for deciding it is not cost effective selling to a particular market, but they should at least allow a few years of efficient parts supply before they pull the rug out from under you.
I had three MVs, and in order to avoid the "Benelli" syndrome, I sold off my 2010 990R and F4. I kept my 1078RR since it is a vastly superior bike as far as fit and finish. All of the issues I was told would occur on the new bikes ended up happening, such as fungus in the dash on the F4 and the powder coat on the 990 motor peeling off. The older bike may not have as smooth a throttle response, but at least it is built like a MV should be. Mainly, I don't want to have 3 headaches in my garage when the company decides to flip the bird to the USA.
 

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Really? Where did you get this "intel"? Is this why I cannot get a hold of a few kats in PA... I have recv'd undeliverable emails as if they do not exist anymore.

At any rate, I find this hard to believe that MV would give up on the US market.

I just rode with the sales manager for the local DFW area and he was excited talking about when they would be getting the "new" F3 and F4RR models which is supposed to be some time next year... but not that MV was closing up shop in the US.

I know some of you have great relationships with those who run things in Italy... what are they saying?
Got that info from two shop owners and employees. They can't even reach anyone at MV to assist with orders etc. MV cut their staff of people assisting the USA to 1 person answering the phones, and is only offering and selling off the old 2010 bikes at huge discounts.
I did not want to face the music either, but this is the exact same road I saw Benelli go down before they bailed on the USA. Most dealers and people with something to lose are always going to paint a rosey picture, but when a dealership who has supported the company from day 1 says it looks grim and makes a decision to avoid putting bikes on the floor, I have to suspect something extreme is about to go down. Hey, I hope I am wrong, but still, who the heck wants a bike with absolutely no factory or customer support....let alone parts?
 

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I was told by my dealer that they sent all the parts back to Italy that were in the USA and that they are just now setting up the distro system to order directly from Italy. He just got his passwords to get into the system last week.

He told me that there were 3 people left, one of them was the receptionist and 2 other sales reps. Matt Stutzman is no longer there. He didn't say they were abandoning the US but who knows?
 

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Yes, Matt Stutzman is no longer there...picked that up from my LinkedIn connection. None of my contacts are there now.

The word I heard is there will be a new distributor for the US...but with Italy now taking their annual August holiday it may be a while! I do not believe they will abandon the US market. It is too large for that, and their announced global marketing plans would indicate they won't.
Think of it, they are setting up MV kit assembly plant in Brazil to circumvent the extreme import duties there (a common practice in countries where law requires a certain percentage local content, labor in this case, or 100% tariff)...how big is that market for sales potential?

I remain optimistic....not about the US government unfortunately, but about MV in the USA at least.
 

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Sorry to hijack the thread, but the widely laughed at and disparaged tea party just dealt a crushing defeat to the dark side. Things are looking up.
 

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Regarding MV Agusta, I just read in Cycle World that with the introduction of the F3, they are planning on doubling production from 4000 to 8000 bikes a year, with an eventual goal of reaching 16,000 bikes sold per year. I can't imagine they'd be deserting the American market with those type numbers forecasted.
 

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I don't know what MV USA brand is, but I think MV is a good brand.

And if you no longer represent your friends and neighbors from your cushy seat in Washington because of Tea Party Activists, it's no joke.

If your base is pissed off at you and is going to stay home next year because you caved to tea party demands, it's no joke.

Lastly if you think Obama's peculiar brand of Keynsian economics was going bring this country to a social/democratic nirvana, the tea party put a stop to that. No joke.

You may find whistling past the graveyard helps you sleep at night, but I assure you, democrats around the country in leadership positions realize the tea party is no joke and are in an absolute panic about what to do next.
 

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I don't know what MV USA brand is, but I think MV is a good brand.

And if you no longer represent your friends and neighbors from your cushy seat in Washington because of Tea Party Activists, it's no joke.

If your base is pissed off at you and is going to stay home next year because you caved to tea party demands, it's no joke.

Lastly if you think Obama's peculiar brand of Keynsian economics was going bring this country to a social/democratic nirvana, the tea party put a stop to that. No joke.

You may find whistling past the graveyard helps you sleep at night, but I assure you, democrats around the country in leadership positions realize the tea party is no joke and are in an absolute panic about what to do next.
Well said. +1

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The prices you in the US are expecting to pay are so low that I don't see MV making any money. After all turnover is vanity profit is sanity. ...
 

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I have it on good authority that MV bikes will come out of a warehouse in NJ and the parts from Italy.
My last order took 12 days and I'm fine with that.
 

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The prices you in the US are expecting to pay are so low that I don't see MV making any money. After all turnover is vanity profit is sanity. ...

I have to agree with ErikV; there is no point in selling product if there is no profit.
The kind of production numbers that MV are projecting (never mind currently producing!) do not allow the smaller margins the US market forces upon them.
Even with 10.000 bikes produced a year(2&1/2 times the 2010 figure!), they will have to choose their markets carefully.
At least the management now seem to be seriously trying to make a profitable business- I hope they don't make the mistake of reducing quality to a point where people lose interest!
 

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Yes, Matt Stutzman is no longer there...picked that up from my LinkedIn connection. None of my contacts are there now.

The word I heard is there will be a new distributor for the US...but with Italy now taking their annual August holiday it may be a while! I do not believe they will abandon the US market. It is too large for that, and their announced global marketing plans would indicate they won't.
Think of it, they are setting up MV kit assembly plant in Brazil to circumvent the extreme import duties there (a common practice in countries where law requires a certain percentage local content, labor in this case, or 100% tariff)...how big is that market for sales potential?

I remain optimistic....not about the US government unfortunately, but about MV in the USA at least.

I'm sure that these bikes that are to be assembled here won't be absorved by our market.
 

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Yes, Matt Stutzman is no longer there...picked that up from my LinkedIn connection. None of my contacts are there now.

The word I heard is there will be a new distributor for the US...but with Italy now taking their annual August holiday it may be a while! I do not believe they will abandon the US market. It is too large for that, and their announced global marketing plans would indicate they won't.
Think of it, they are setting up MV kit assembly plant in Brazil to circumvent the extreme import duties there (a common practice in countries where law requires a certain percentage local content, labor in this case, or 100% tariff)...how big is that market for sales potential?

I remain optimistic....not about the US government unfortunately, but about MV in the USA at least.
Hey, they have a Ferrari plant in Mexico where they finish off the build of the new Fiat 500 I bought, so why not make MVs in Brazil? The fact that they are planning to do that is the most encouraging news I have heard for MV not abandoning the US. I still think Castiglioni may be harboring some anger toward the US for Harley's handling of the company. With the lower quality of my 2010 MVs, I don't blame him if he is ticked off.
 
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