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Hi all!! I´ve had a few Jap sportbikes before the MV (CBR600F4, Hayabusa, RVT1000R, R1) and I used to up-shift without using the clutch from 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th... now on the MV these seems to be a lot easier!! even from 1st to 2nd at 3000rpm seems like it´s supposed to be shifted w/out the clutch... now my question is: IS THIS HARMFUL IN ANY WAY? WILL I DAMAGE THE TRANSMISSION?
 

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If I'm riding fast, that's how I shift. Won't hurt the trans.
 

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Hi all!! I´ve had a few Jap sportbikes before the MV (CBR600F4, Hayabusa, RVT1000R, R1) and I used to up-shift without using the clutch from 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th... now on the MV these seems to be a lot easier!! even from 1st to 2nd at 3000rpm seems like it´s supposed to be shifted w/out the clutch... now my question is: IS THIS HARMFUL IN ANY WAY? WILL I DAMAGE THE TRANSMISSION?
Hola Nico, como andas. No hay problema con la caja siempre y cuando los cambios entren con suavidad y que sientas que "se chupa" el cambio. Cuando rasca ó tenes que hacer mucha fuerza con el pie izquierdo significa que le estas haciendo daño a la caja. El pasaje de 1a a 2a no es tan facil de sincronizarlo clutchless pero los otros entran suavemente siempre y cuando lo hagas con el motor en vueltas. A mi me parece que entran bien siempre y cuando estemos arriba de las 6000rpm. Es conveniente tener precargada la palanca del cambio así cuando cortas el acelerador (debe ser brusco el corte), el cambio "se chupa".

La sensación es muy agradable y permite andar rápido. Disfrutalo.

Abrazo.

Milton
 

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Hola Nico, como andas. No hay problema con la caja siempre y cuando los cambios entren con suavidad y que sientas que "se chupa" el cambio. Cuando rasca ó tenes que hacer mucha fuerza con el pie izquierdo significa que le estas haciendo daño a la caja. El pasaje de 1a a 2a no es tan facil de sincronizarlo clutchless pero los otros entran suavemente siempre y cuando lo hagas con el motor en vueltas. A mi me parece que entran bien siempre y cuando estemos arriba de las 6000rpm. Es conveniente tener precargada la palanca del cambio así cuando cortas el acelerador (debe ser brusco el corte), el cambio "se chupa".

La sensación es muy agradable y permite andar rápido. Disfrutalo.

Abrazo.

Milton
Hola Milton!! Gracias por tu respuesta!! que caja maravillosa tienen las MV!! nunca se me a saltado un cambio ni e encontrado ele "falso neutral" entre cambios como pasa en algunas niponas. Buen tip me diste, a la hora de cambiar de marcha lo ideal es tener el pie ejerciendo presion mientras se acelera y al momento de cambiar de marcha, el acelerador en off y on para que "chupe" coo decis vos, la siguiente marcha. Un abrazo colega!! a ver si nos juntamos algun dia de turismo!!
 

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wow, if its always fine to clutchless upshift, then why is quick shifter a feature in some bikes including the current F4 and the Panigale? I guess I paid extra for a feature that all bikes already have
 

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I would imagine all current motorcycles you are able to upshift without clutch due to straight cut gear design.MV's have such a great gearbox,it's like they were built for clutchless upshifts.The quickshifter is just lightning fast,quicker than the human brain to send messages,well my brain anyway.:jsm:
 

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wow, if its always fine to clutchless upshift, then why is quick shifter a feature in some bikes including the current F4 and the Panigale? I guess I paid extra for a feature that all bikes already have
You have to manually roll off the throttle if you don't have a QS. On a road bike a QS is fairly useless. On a track bike it is a very nice feature. I used to get arm cramps from manually QS at the end of my 2nd or 3rd race.
 

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You have to manually roll off the throttle if you don't have a QS. On a road bike a QS is fairly useless. On a track bike it is a very nice feature. I used to get arm cramps from manually QS at the end of my 2nd or 3rd race.

Have to disagree with a QS being useless on a road bike.

After fitting one to my 675 Triumph Daytona I wouldn't have a road bike without one now.


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Cool!! thanks for all the opinions... the bike does have a really good gear box!! I can say after having 13 jap bikes and a Ducati Monster, this is by far the best gear box I´ve ever had on a bike. On all others I used to alway fall into a false neutral between 5th and 6th when I got a little lazy upshifting, even on Hondas!! o the MV: NO PROBLEMS!!
 
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