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Would you like to share how you would secure your bike?

I guess everyone has a different situation to deal with.
Someone living in the countryside with a garage will swet less than someone living in a Sin City and having to leave the bike on road.
And everyone else is found somewhere between.

An idea:
http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/
 

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dont assume that!!,out in the country the neighbours tend to be out of ear shot and sight. my too nearest neighbours,and myself have all been hit at different times,needless to say we all have installed full security since.Household insurance doesnt cover unreg. dirt bikes over 100cc so fortunately i had the harley proof chains and the kryptonite floor bolt,they just took every TV in the house instead !!..the Duc was insured but kept in a box,with fliptop lid, not for security reasons,but away from kids on errant motocross bikes riding in and out of my garage when i m not at home!!...hj
 

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The best defense are things which will deter thieves from entering your property.

2 simple things to do this.

Install motion detector flood lights. Baddies hate lights because they can be seen/identified. They will abandon your property if they are lit up like a Christmas tree.

Second is to install CCTV and put up CCTV signs on your property. You could put up CCTV signs without actually installing a system, baddies won't know the difference.

Both options are very cheap, easy to install and probably will have the greatest impact.
 

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A well lit area to place the bike is good as you can see them, they can't see you, when they opperate in the night.

I went to the police station to get some advice.
They spoke about SelectaDNA.
It seems to be a good deterrent as well if I believe them.

They may not be caught but if they do they can't say they weren't there. Kind of make their carrier shorter or at least make it more difficult for them to keep a criminal record clear.
Funny how more they get caught more the police go to their door just out of interest when anything happens in the area.
Ok, sometimes they just built-up records before acting.

A spray can be fitted over doors. They will leave the premises with a big flag on them.
 

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Got a kryptonite brakedisc lock and I always put the bikes on the steering lock.

Lucky enough that I have a garage where both my MV beauties are put in.

Then ofcourse I have a baseball bat on the standy, just in case someone even wants to touch my bike :devilsmok
 

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Got a kryptonite brakedisc lock and I always put the bikes on the steering lock.
Got one thing to say about this system.
2 men at each wheel, 1 pole through each wheel, lift and walk the bike into a van. 20 sec.

Then ofcourse I have a baseball bat on the standy, just in case someone even wants to touch my bike :devilsmok
I don't think baseball bat are effective enough when you are out.
 

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When younger i used to be concerned with bike security, carry chains and locking devices around

but now, i say bollocks to it all

Ive fully comprehensive insurance and if they are going to steal it, then such is life

I dont advertise my bikes and have removed all photo's I used to keep on here; some photo album's on this forum are a open invitation to crooks, giving full layout of home, garage and bikes available. If you go deep into some posts, you will also know what forum members do for a living, what time they start work, what time they finish, what security they have or dont have etc

have a look for yourself

check members photo albums, then go into what threads they have started, if you really want to do some research, this forum is a good place to start.

think about it!



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Discussion Starter #9 (Edited)
When younger i used to be concerned with bike security, carry chains and locking devices around

but now, i say bollocks to it all

Ive fully comprehensive insurance and if they are going to steal it, then such is life

I dont advertise my bikes and have removed all photo's I used to keep on here; some photo album's on this forum are a open invitation to crooks, giving full layout of home, garage and bikes available. If you go deep into some posts, you will also know what forum members do for a living, what time they start work, what time they finish, what security they have or dont have etc

have a look for yourself

check members photo albums, then go into what threads they have started, if you really want to do some research, this forum is a good place to start.

think about it!
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I think that's why it is so hard to speak about security.
There is a fine line between saying what you may have got and giving further information to thieves.
That is also why so many rely on a baseball bat knowing it scares nobody.
Comprehensive insurance? Which country are you in?

The idea though is to find out what works and what doesn't. Before, not after.
And you will then hopefully be better prepared than someone who doesn't discuss it at all.
 

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but now, i say bollocks to it all

Ive fully comprehensive insurance and if they are going to steal it, then such is life
I am the same. Full comp insurance, if it goes, it goes. I don't bother with car alarms or car tracking either. The insurance companies barely reduce the premium so to me it says that stuff doesn't work. Besides, if your car/bike got stolen, would you really want a thrashed vehicle back? I'd rather it be gone for good.

Good points on the other stuff. My experience is to be VERY paranoid when selling a bike. Soooo many dodgy people were after my MV. 50% wanted my home address or they would make some excuse on why they couldn't see it if i wanted to meet elsewhere :wtf:

I went to the police station to get some advice.
They spoke about SelectaDNA.
It seems to be a good deterrent as well if I believe them.
That's all good but the aim is to prevent them from entering your property in the first place. For that, they need to know you have a sensor light, know you have CCTV, know you have some DNA spray thingo, know you have barking dogs etc. You need signage.

If they enter your property, flog your bike but get some spray on them. Who cares. Your bike is gone! It sounds like a crap way of preventing theft.

Even if your bike is bolted to the ground they might get the shits and scratch the hell out of it in which case you are up for an insurance claim anyway.

Deter them first. If that fails. Let them take the bike and hope it is never found. Claim on insurance and get a brand new bike :)
 

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They simply don't give fully comprehensive insurance in UK.
Or pay £9000. You might just as well buy a used replacement bike at that price and you will still have spare to buy another used bike. Or stuck with no bike for a while, either way.

You are right, signage is essential with those systems (Datatag, Smartwater, SelectaDNA) as well as public awareness.
Those systems requires a lot more work to resale parts.
While the work is carried out, the parts are in their hands and can be tracked back.
I understand what you are saying though. Who just want parts back when they can have fully comprehensive insurance.
The idea, I guess, is that they move on to another bike which requires less work.
What the point of being a thieve and having to work more than an employee for the same money?
 

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They simply don't give fully comprehensive insurance in UK.
Shit :jsm:

I have Police, Army, Jail officers in the family and they know a fair bit about how crims think so my previous comments come from good sources.

When you park it in the garage put on a disc lock front and rear. They'll need 2 very strong people or 3-4 normal people to physically pick the bike up and carry it.
 

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When you park it in the garage put on a disc lock front and rear. They'll need 2 very strong people or 3-4 normal people to physically pick the bike up and carry it.
Agreed, that's why a ground anchor is so essential.
Or attaching it to another unmovable, uncuttable, unbreakable object.
So at least you are left with one wheel (if the chain and the lock are good, thus forget Oxford and Abus).
 

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1. Chained to a ground anchor.
2. Locked garage without windows.
3. Car parked against garage door during nights.
4. Datatag (doubtful value).
5. Fully comp insurance (cheaper out in the sticks).
6. No advertising - garage door always shut, bike never left outside etc. If they don't know it's there, they won't try to nick it.
 

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you sure on that?

ive had fully comp bike ins for last 25 years

guess i have to disagree with the above statement.

That's it really. 25 years. I guess insurances take that into account. Re-start as a newbie today.
 

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you sure on that?

ive had fully comp bike ins for last 25 years

guess i have to disagree with the above statement.
I could be wrong but i got the impression the 9,000 quid he was talking about was the cost if he insured the bike?
 

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Re-start as a newbie today.
There ya go. Always expensive for a young bloke.

My young brother in law recently got his full licence. Any supersport bike was around AUD$5k to comprehensively insure. Crazy stuff but then again it's the young blokes to crash a lot.
 

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There ya go. Always expensive for a young bloke.

My young brother in law recently got his full licence. Any supersport bike was around AUD$5k to comprehensively insure. Crazy stuff but then again it's the young blokes to crash a lot.
I couldn't even get a quote for Fire and Theft alone when calling.
Insurances rule the country.
 

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It normally takes 3 or 4 years no claims to make a good difference in costs.

remember you can take 3rd party or 3rd party fire & theft

then switch over to fully comp using the no claims you built up on 3rd party

its a process everyone has to go through and once you have a good no claims built up make sure you "protect it" so that you dont lose years if you have to make a claim.

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