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Well, here it is, Tallula gets home with her brand new F3, so I do absolutely the right thing and pinch it for half an hour....

So...after a mad half hour I can report that in back to back testing with my F4, the F3 has a really tricky side stand!

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Other than the side stand ....

Sorry if this comes across a bit incoherent ... alot of this is about the feel of it ...

First impressions are between 0 and 4k the bike's not sure what day of the week it is but over 4k its as sweet as a nut, which could make running it in a bit tricky and I can understand why people won't like it in a carpark situation.

The engine breaking is a bit weird - the throttle is trying to do 'stuff' while you are doing 'stuff' - it feels like the ECU is telling the throttle bodies to do something while you are trying to do something else with your right hand, disconnect between right hand and throttles and the ECU is taking over at that point. This is only a very low speed. This is more about trusting the electronics and could be a departure from conventional electronics.

I don't see any of the above as insurmountable in terms of just getting used to it. It's a quirk and even on my ride home I started to get the feel for how much throttle I needed coming into roundabouts/junctions - it didn't stall and it didn't jerk but it does require you to get a feel for it's needs very quickly (this is a hard one to explain).

Don't fart about with the electronics without knowing what you're doing because you might inadvertently set the speed limiter to 38kph ... ooppps.

The suspension is plush and subtle - compared with the R6 it feels so much more sophiscated.

It is very light - almost like riding a push bike - I thought the R6 was light, the F3 is much lighter and so manoeverable! It's petite - the tank extends under the seat which makes it neat and narrow.

The clutch lever is not working for me - my hands are too small and the lever feels very far away - nothing a Rizoma lever won't solve. This the case with me and all bikes so not F3 specific.

I am not one bit disappointed ... I love it. It has an amazing amount of character ... it feels like a thoroughbred horse in terms of it being on the verge of something special all the time, like a future Derby winner. That will come after run in ... patience required below 4k.

And yes the side side is a bit weird.
 

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Great to hear you are happy with the F3...so far! I'm a little concerned by the side stand comments though as with my 5'6 height and short legs, I struggle to engage the side stand on my F4 so if this is worse, that could be a problem!!! lol
What engine map are you currently running? "Sport" would explain the jerky throttle at lower revs. I would use "Normal" for now and when you are better acquainted with the bike, set it up using the custom or "Corono" map (as MV call it) to get the fuelling just about perfect for your style of riding and what you like best from an engine delivery.
"Sport" mode is really only any good if you are actually racing the bike on track, but for moderate road riding, it is too extreme.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your new baby!!
 

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Great little write up & im chuffed for you.

I am really interested in buying one of these but am holding off till I get a test ride.

I was wanting one mainly for track days as I already have a dozen road bikes, but the fuelling issue has held me back, as coming out of the hairpin at Oulton & finding no power or coming over the mountain at Cadwell & closing the throttle to find the bike continues could be catastrophic!:jsm:

Your views & others as owners will be invaluable.

Keep posting.:)
 

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I'm not concerned about any side stand issues. As an owner of a 916, nothing could possibly be worse than the side stand on that bike. They don't call them "suicide" stands for nothing!
 

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congrats tallula am jealous mine will be another week at least to arrive. Your comments are very helpfull. Happy riding!!! ju x
 

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Great to hear you are happy with the F3...so far! I'm a little concerned by the side stand comments though as with my 5'6 height and short legs, I struggle to engage the side stand on my F4 so if this is worse, that could be a problem!!! lol
What engine map are you currently running? "Sport" would explain the jerky throttle at lower revs. I would use "Normal" for now and when you are better acquainted with the bike, set it up using the custom or "Corono" map (as MV call it) to get the fuelling just about perfect for your style of riding and what you like best from an engine delivery.
"Sport" mode is really only any good if you are actually racing the bike on track, but for moderate road riding, it is too extreme.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your new baby!!
No need to worry ... I am only 5'5" ... once you kick the stand up it needs a second kick as it doesn't quite spring into place, at you'll know its up at that rate. No issue with it going down.

I had the map set on normal, as it left the dealership that way. I have now moved it to Fast on Engine Response setting and normal for everything else. As none of us seem to know what all the settings mean at the moment I am changing the variables one at a time and see where that leads me.

The custom mapping is easy enough to access - there just a lot of it - I reckon there'd be something seriously wrong if you can't find the perfect setting for whatever type of rider you are, working out what they all mean to each individual rider will take time.

So really it's like have a new toy that needs loads of playing around with, and that excites me. Just getting on and riding away is overrated :naughty: ... (joke).

By the way the low down torque is superb, even in the limited run in rev range, passing on the way home was easy peasy !!!
 

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Don't bother running the bike in as they are all run at the factory so no real point and your find the engine will be much nicer for it oh and I'm sure fitting a ecu from that guy a Xbikes will sort the fueling out.
 

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Great little write up & im chuffed for you.

I am really interested in buying one of these but am holding off till I get a test ride.

I was wanting one mainly for track days as I already have a dozen road bikes, but the fuelling issue has held me back, as coming out of the hairpin at Oulton & finding no power or coming over the mountain at Cadwell & closing the throttle to find the bike continues could be catastrophic!:jsm:

Your views & others as owners will be invaluable.

Keep posting.:)
Don't be concerned....it has very tall first gear...not so good for Santa Pod, great for Mallory and Oulton!
 

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Photos are in the thread .... 20 minutes to go.


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Photos (again)




 

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The side stand should loose up, new bike and all that, if not I'm sure it's an easy fix with some freeing up.

Mine will come off not long after it's home so I can have it powder coated satin black like the Oro, I'll check the movement when I re fit it.

Everything else sounds pretty awesome, pics look great too, although I am pleased I am also well jelous, fair play though, you really have struck it lucky with delivery, I know you are good customers at DC so it's no surprise they look after you.

Wish i could say the same about my hopefully soon to be ex dealer.

congrats again, trully is a beautiful bike, what do you think of the sound of it?
 

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what do you think of the sound of it?
Sound is nothing I have ever heard before. I was always amazed at the burbling sound of the Ducati and the screaming banshee Kawasaki ... but this triple has a distinct beat ... and it's loud! Changes again after 4k ...

You will not be disappointed. :highclap:

I freely admit I have been lucky ... if nothing else at least you know when you get one you will be blown away by the noise.
 

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Yeah I really can't wait now, I'm on ebay at the moment, just bought a new garage mat and rear wheel nut tool, probably get the chain next week.

I want to get my wheels painted gold asap after getting it home, i've got lots of plans and lots of Titanium fasteners to fit to the bike.

I'm looking into getting forks anodised gold, I think there is a local company that could do it, as for the carbon bits, I will bits and pieces as I go along but I will cheat and cover them to begin with, if it looks tacky I will leave it.

I'm defo painting the cam cover red too, that is a must.
 

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German PS Magazin April number 4:

engine runs mechanical rough, clutch rubbling,delayed throttle, power starts up @6k rev.

Not sure anymore to purchase the "dream bike".
Got the Duc 749 already with engine stalling issues, the 1098 I got
Was running good with open Termis (when I was living in the US) and with the powercommander.
 

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Don't bother running the bike in as they are all run at the factory so no real point and your find the engine will be much nicer for it oh and I'm sure fitting a ecu from that guy a Xbikes will sort the fueling out.
Partly agree with this statement but not completely. I would say running in is still important, but there is no need to be as cautious as the manual may suggest. 500 miles is about all that is needed.
This is a quote from a very informative article on running in modern motorcycle engines by an expert at Castrol;

"Handbooks, as in most things, play safe in telling you how to run in an engine, usually suggesting 1,000 miles (1,600km) or more. But for once this can do more harm than good. According to Peter Brett from the world leading Castrol Technology Centre in Pangbourne in south east England, 500 miles (800 km) is about right for a modern bike engine. “Running in now is more about cleaning up the manufacturing and stabilising the surfaces, which means taking it a bit easy for the first 500 miles,” he says. “Not too easy though! In practice, this just means riding normally. The worst thing you can do is load an engine at low revs, and avoid very high revs at first. Build up gradually and don’t suddenly give it full power as you pass the 500 mile mark after being gentle!”

See: http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/running
 

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Great photos, great write up... Great to see new rider impressions ....

Looking forward to more....

Enjoy your new toy.
 

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Don't bother running the bike in as they are all run at the factory so no real point and your find the engine will be much nicer for it oh and I'm sure fitting a ecu from that guy a Xbikes will sort the fueling out.
Not entirety true....the engine is run on a dyno (briefly) and the bike is run after assembly (briefly)....but there is a reason to have a break in period, as there are many more mechanical bits that need to get to know each other in a less than full blast stressful condition.

Regardless of what some popular theories contend, the engineers that designed the machine (you have to admit, they aren't stupid, regardless of what Noel says) recommend a running in period....I would go with what they recommend.

Let us know what your ownership experiences are as you get accustomed to your new friend.
 

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Ah...you guys are killing me! :banghead:
I am still waiting for my F3 to arrive!
 
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