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Can any of the mechanically enlightened members of this forum give me some idea of how expensive it would be to repair a cracked (leaking) lower right engine casing on a Tamburini ?
What would be the chances of internal engine problems in this scenario ?
Does the Tambo have the same engine casing as an F4 ?
Any advice greatly appreciated.
 

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It will be cheaper if you don't mention the Tamburini part.

Seriously, the engine cases are the same as the rest of the F4s.
 

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JB Weld and careful use of a dremel tool....crack repaired inexpensively.... as long as it is just a crack and not structural damage.
 

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Where's the crack? Although I use JB for alot of things I would not use it to fix a crack. It'll never hold as you won't be able to thoroughly clean the area and expansion/contraction will open it up again. I would either remove the piece and have it welded and then try to finish it off as nicely as you can or better yet buy a new or good used one. They can be had. Ask Cag. He's got so much stuff he can't remember where it all is. Good prices and good service too.

JB on a Tambo? You can come join me on Neanderthal island.
 

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Pictures!!!!!!!!!! And the crack is a result of {complete this sentence}

Depending where it is, I would weld it up and machine it down again, grind, sand and then sandblast and you probably wouldn't see it. But it really depends where it is.
 

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The Tambo in question has been HBC - "Hit By Car" - supposedly while it was parked.
There are some pieces of the lower front right engine casing missing around the bolt holes so that wouldn't be repairable and I know it would need to be replaced. But at the risk of exposing my ignorance of things mechanical I was hoping to get info on whether engine casings come as a complete unit or whether it is possible to only replace parts which are damaged - and what the cost would be.
My other concern is what probability there would be of internal engine damage. The seller says the motor runs but he hasn't done that because the casing is leaking from the hit.
Very hard to believe the owner wouldn't repair it himself - he says he hasn't got the time (as if you wouldn't MAKE TIME for a Tambo !) and I'm guessing the only reason it's up for sale is that the seller knows that the cost of repairing it will exceed it's value. Replacing the carbon fibre fairings and seat pod won't be cheap.
But, hey, I'm tempted !! But I ain't stupid so hence this fact finding post to this forum.
 

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A new casing from the importer will be a fortune (and alone would probably put the current owner off), if you can line up one here then it should be quite affordable, there are likely one or two tucked away that have had head problems or bought for repowering a 750, etc. A Senna was in a "radiator let go, fluid all over rear wheel, smashed at speed" here a year ago and the cost to repair estimate was $45k+ for parts from memory, but someone did it and its for sale here now for $30k (not that I would touch it).
 

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Not sure where you're at, but much like buying a used car, take it to the dealer and have them inspect it and provide an estimate. If you want the bike that bad, pay for the towing and inspection and ask that the amount be applied towards the bike purchase if you buy it. The estimate will provide you with a list of parts (some of which you'll find on the forum) and a professional as opposed to guess-timate expectation. If they seller isn't hiding anything, I can't imagine any reason they wouldn't agree to the inspection.

If it turns out it's a complete loss, you'll be happy you avoided a money pitfall. If the seller tries to sell it through some other mechanism without full disclosure, you'll have the estimate since you paid for it and let us all know to be aware. And finally, pictures, pictures, pictures.
 

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The Tambo in question has been HBC - "Hit By Car" - supposedly while it was parked.
There are some pieces of the lower front right engine casing missing around the bolt holes so that wouldn't be repairable and I know it would need to be replaced. But at the risk of exposing my ignorance of things mechanical I was hoping to get info on whether engine casings come as a complete unit or whether it is possible to only replace parts which are damaged - and what the cost would be.
My other concern is what probability there would be of internal engine damage. The seller says the motor runs but he hasn't done that because the casing is leaking from the hit.
Very hard to believe the owner wouldn't repair it himself - he says he hasn't got the time (as if you wouldn't MAKE TIME for a Tambo !) and I'm guessing the only reason it's up for sale is that the seller knows that the cost of repairing it will exceed it's value. Replacing the carbon fibre fairings and seat pod won't be cheap.
But, hey, I'm tempted !! But I ain't stupid so hence this fact finding post to this forum.
If the bike was struck while parked and never run since, you might be lucky, however if it was hit hard enough to damage the casing, there might be a bent crank shaft or something equally exciting. I have to agree if the owner doesn't want to repair it there probably is more to the story.

As a Tambo it should be worth repairing, but I'd be more concerned with the body work and frame - they are going to be expensive. I'm sure you can get a used engine from GAG or someone for a regular bike and then use the two to make a single example (i.e. combine the parts).

If you want to let it go, I might be interested (anthough I'd need to get it posted to Sydney).

Andrew...
 

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If it's simply the part or parts you mentioned, and even some internal bits and pieces, it shouldn't cost a fortune (engine repair wise) the bodywork and the rest of what make Tamburini a Tamburini will not be cheap to fix though (but do read on)...What else appears to be damaged on the bike, you've only mentioned the engine casing, since it would be impossible to knock a hole in the motor without going though the fairing, etc...there must be other damage, unless, somehow he had the bike parked with the bodywork off. I would take it to an MV mechanic and get an est, tell them that you have a source (CAG) for most of the mechanical parts required. I don't beleive that CAG will be able to help you with Tam specific carbon and such, but perhaps, JDS (John here on the site) can help you with any Tam bodywork that might be required.
 

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oooooh...that broken spot is the main oil galley....you are not going to fix that one. New cases needed.

OK...a really really good welder machinist might fix it....very tricky to do, though.
 

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After looking at the photos...My guess is it's going to take at least $15-20,000 to bring it back to Tam spec (of course it could be more) and I bet it ends up going for $8-10K...so you have up to $30,000 into a repaired ex wrecked bike, that might be worth $30-32,000 (tops) not to mention the 6-12 months of time it's going to take for this project. No wonder the fellow is selling. Sure, I wouldn't mind having an extra Tambo laying around as a donor bike, but I couldn't take having to look at such a beautiful motorcycle in such sad shape. I predict this bike will disappear into an array of available parts for sale.
 

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People who put up bikes for sale and then act evasively when you (quite reasonably) want details obviously have something they want to hide. There are some warning signs with this damaged Tambo for sale on ebay.com.au
1. The guy selling it doesn't own it. He says he is selling it for a friend.
2. The ad says it is currently registered for another 6 months but a vehicle search shows the rego expired some time ago.
3. The seller refused to give his phone number to talk about the bike - said he would only answer questions sent through ebay.

But Tambos being Tambos I reckon someone will pay way too much for this bike just because they won't be able to separate the reality from the dreamy glossy picures they've seen.

People forget caveat emptor when it comes to trick bikes and pretty women !!!!!
 

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To add CSI Miami type credibility to your second point above - there is plenty of rust on several parts of that bike. I think this accident happened several months ago.
 
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