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Tonight I went out for a quick jaunt with my girlfriend riding pillion. Under some hard acceleration up through the gears, the bike stalled out, leaving us rolling. I pulled over and the bike started right up.

Any ideas? I just bought this bike less than two weeks ago. It's a little disconcerting :/


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Tonight I went out for a quick jaunt with my girlfriend riding pillion. Under some hard acceleration up through the gears, the bike stalled out, leaving us rolling. I pulled over and the bike started right up.

Any ideas? I just bought this bike less than two weeks ago. It's a little disconcerting :/


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Killcity would you mind telling us what bike it is that you have, maybe add it in the registry or under your signature. And then give us a bit more details before everybody goes on a guessing spree.
 

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It's a 2010 1090RR. I think this might've happened once before but it was more like I hit the redline and the tach dropped back to idle instead of stalling. I had thought it was some sort of rev limiter. I'll add myself to the registry.

Just a little upsetting since I was expecting to be on something newer without any issues.

Thanks!


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I just discovered two completely unhooked cables that lead to the exhaust. Perhaps this is the cause??

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Took cover plate off and see the other ends (not connected). Side note: I found a receipt for a titanium feracci exhaust and some ecu flashing. I presume the guy that sold the bike kept the exhaust for his newer brutale. Looks like this was a quick "slap on" of the old oem exhaust without care to hook the exhaust valve cables back up? What does the exhaust valve actuator do and also would this cause my problem?

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killcity;
the usual default position is the valve wide open, regardless of the connection/position of the cables

is there a user accessible error code available on the new MVs?

i have no idea.....

but my '03 built Aprilia RSVR has that:stickpoke
 

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There's no error code. I didn't even notice this until I sat down and started looking at the connections on the bike.

I'm wondering if this ecu still has the mapping for the old exhaust and the exhaust valve actuator MIL deleted? Is there a way to tell if its stock or not? I would think running the map for the titanium exhaust with the stock exhaust could cause mondo problems.

Fortunately I have the name of the two former owners in the paperwork that came with the bike. I'm going to try and contact the last one (hopefully without creeping him out!) regarding what he did with the bike and any problems he might've had.




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I would say the previous owner had a decate and race ecu ,therefore these cables would have been tied up under the bike,we did this on tony brutale 1090rr,any idea what ecu you have back in the bike,and is it the original or have you got a race ecu. cheers eddy
 

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I would say the previous owner had a decate and race ecu ,therefore these cables would have been tied up under the bike,we did this on tony brutale 1090rr,any idea what ecu you have back in the bike,and is it the original or have you got a race ecu. cheers eddy
Not sure - what's the easiest way to tell? Do you also happen to know how to hook the exhaust valve cables back up (do I need to remove the tank to hook them to the actuator?)

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So I got in touch with the former owner and I also took the tank off. The ECU is indeed flashed by Ferracci. I'm thinking the stock exhaust + Ferracci map is causing a problem.

I left a message for Eraldo (the previous owner actually sent this bike to PA to have them install and tune it for the titanium system) to see what he recommends as he was the one that did all the work. I definitely cannot afford to spend $2500 on that same system.

I figure I can do the following:

1) remove ecu and send it back to Ferracci to be stock flashed
2) buy an aftermarket slip on and hope the Ferracci map will work with it
3) buy a power commander and set it to work with stock exhaust

Any ideas?

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4) buy an aftermarket slip on and have the ecu tuned for that setup
 

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All good idea's here mate. But I honestly don't think the ECU or Pipes is your problem.
Can you explain a bit more, you say the bike stall's, does it cut right out as if you turned the key off? And then starts again after you drop the clutch ?
Or does is just lose power while you still have the throttle wound open ?

You might have something as simple as a sidestand switch messing you around.
 

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One time it seemed to cutoff while accelerating but not stall- basically just jump down to idle. The second time it stalled out on my under open throttle, accelerating. Other than that it pulls pretty hard and no problems.


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I just rode a monster 1100 that also seemed to cutoff when I hit the rev limiter. Maybe that's what I hit on the brute?


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^Possible. But you'd have to talk to MV or someone with REAL knowledge if the cumputer is setup to do that at redline (i Doubt it)

Personally. With loose cables hanging on the bike I would be taking it right back to MCC, its obvious they didn't go over it that well if they didn't even check cables etc. Good luck and hope you dont have to go thru too much trouble.
 

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I'm no expert but I doubt it is the the fact the exhaust valve is open because the cables are not connected. I have disconnect the exhaust valves on several bikes, including my 2010 Brutale 1090RR. In any case, MCC will take care of you. I have had great experiences with them.
 

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Did it cut out after hitting a dip or bump while accelerating? Just thinking along Donsy's line if the kickstands a bit loose and getting jogged down enough to trip the switch. If it stayed down enough it would stall you out completely, but if it came back up it might seem to hold idle until the Brutie jumped itself. Not sure if the switch can kill the bike before the Sidestand Low warning pops up on the screen though.

Definitely poor turnover of the bike to not do a thorough inspection of the bike before selling it to another. For the oversite you should push them for a full Arrow Thunder system or something to match up with the ECU flash.
 

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Thanks guys - I could've definitely hit a bump. It was hard to tell at the time. I'll have to see if it happens again.

As far as the exhaust - I'm not sure what to do. The shop also has a pretty tricked out 07 S4RS for sale. I know I just bought this bike but the hassle already is letting me down.


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I didn't think the stock ECU could be re-programmed, its normally a replacement ECU. As said when the race is fitted the choke valve cables are usually disconnected (removed), in any case this won't cause the bike to cut out. Before I had the microtec on the odd occasion mine would cut out and then start up straight away, no problems now but all 'safety sensors' are turned off.
 

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Billy - this is what I saw:

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How hard is it to disable the safety sensors?

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