Rope skills yes, but where does courage come into throwing a rope over a calf's head as it runs away terrified and coming to a dead stop almost breaking its neck then to jump on it and bind its feet up. fucking disgusting IMHO!
Jeez ... Som strong opinions here .. If you like to eat beef .. You have to handle cattle ... Most of us have someone else doing that "unpleasant work" for us and see the steak we eat as a clinically sliced piece of meat, nicely wrapped in the cooler at the supermarket... what goes before that of killing, pain, gore and guts most people studiously ignore. -- Rather few take the consequence and become Vegans...
Personally I much prefer to kill my own meat-animals, so I go hunting deer, ducks, geese e.t.c. They have lived a free, but harsh life in nature, and if no predator kills them (including me ) they will end in a miserable way, by disease or starvation or both-- So hunting them seems rather "humane" to me
Point one: Don't eat meat of any kind.@ jigsaw: You are just as far removed from reality as the "rednecks" that think global warming is a hoax, and that you can assume anything about my views on the protection of animals from the fact that I am a hunter.
Point one: If you eat meat with the views you flaunt, you are hypocrite of the worst kind- rebuking others for not conforming to your particular narrow world view ..
Point two: it is a scientific FACT that humans would not have evolved the level of intelligence and conciousness that we have, without being hunters -- So in fact you are what you are because of your ancestry of meat eaters and hunters.
So go preach your pompous antihunter views to someone else ..
Of course animals have rights -- they have the right to be treated properly, and not made to suffer unduly, they have the right to be protected in their natural habitats - and to be protected from extinction by human activities, as long at they were not obviously already "out on a dead limb" evolution wise, such as the great panda -- literally millions of species have gone extinct long before humans even evolved --
That's a good question @Deano, quite happy with fruit and vegies myself.Firstly I'm a meat eater but not a huge one. Just as happy with a nice salad, with or without meat. Just a question here that may or may not be relevant to this debate and one that's bugged me for years: -
Why the fuck to vegans have a whole range of foods made to look like and supposedly imitate meat products?
You're either against it or not. If you wont eat meat for ethical reasons why buy 'meat' substitutes. This one has me fucked.