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BSG..... Was looking up any info on 2020 Aprilia RSGP MotoGP bike On Italian site GPONE. No info on next years Aprilia MotoGP bike but they just put up article on Marquez and Ducati looking to start negotiations on 2021 season . I do write source in post . BSG my spine collaped in on itself , Cant walk more than 50ft so I look up info . GPONE is a fairly reliable site for info. ASPHALT AND RUBBER is the national inquirer of Moto press.
 

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BSG I do not speculate , I just transfer info from the few fair to good moto info sites .. MotoMatterscom and GPONE.COM are like the old saying .. where there is smoke there is fire.... They get info first and EVENTUALLY there articles become true . BGS I will even update info today. Yamaha has been improving by leaps and bounds .


Also if Moto2 contender Brad Binder cantransfer his ability to work around problems in MotoGP the way he does in Moto2 Binder will be able to fully utilize the power and quickness of the KTM RC16
 

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Roehr, that still doesnt justify you commenting Marquez winning even more easily if he's on a Suzuki or Ducati.
How Qaurtararo easily picks up podiums, and fightings with Marquez on a Ducati. And I want to know your source for that.

Marquez now has to work around the front tyre with the Honda(you've mentioned that 100 times before. Also a known fact in paddock.) But does applying that, make him go faster on a Suzuki that is know for great corner speed? Does that make him go faster on a Ducati?
You'll never know how things work out until he's actually on the bike. Unless you can provide me facts for this, It's speculation in my book.

That was my question. Not that chats happened behind the scene between Riders and teams.
 

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BSQ both the Suzuki and the Ducati are better handling machines that the Honda . Both machines beat Marquez with lesser riders especially in Dovis case . If Dovi was on the the RCV213V he wouldn't make the top 10. . last time I looked Crutchlow was 11th nakagami was 16th and Lorenzo was?? 20th? MARQUEZ IS THE ONLY REASON HONDA IS HAVING ANY SUCCESS IN MOTOGP. That's not speculation … that's just reading race results. I have nothing against Honda personally . If marquez was riding for Yamaha and the Yamaha MotoGP bike was going into tank slappers ect and Marquez was the only rider sKilled emough to get results I would be saying the same . The Honda RCV213V is just a poor handling MotoGP bike Just ask the riders on the Honda RCV213V.

PS... BSG I am a bit confused on one of your questions ? How do I know Marquez midcorner speed is faster than other riders? His AVERAGE is faster than the other riders(hard to explain but will try my best ) marquez Style is what makes him so special. You have heard of …. Slow in fast out where rider comes into corner slower squares off corner gets turning done early so he can get on gas earlier. THEN there is Fast in slow out... Go into corner as fast as possible using long arcing lines which you slow until finished corner then apply gas . MARQUEZ goes in fast , then squares off corner getting turning done early BUT he is able to control throttle very precisely so suspension doesn't load the suspension allowing Marquez to also keep a high midcorner speed AND being he has kept the Supension unloaded the tires have a stable even load so he can get on the throttle early with a lot of grip because suspension/tires have squatted down . Marquez Style has numerous advantages. Many riders know HOW he does it , they just cant pull it off
 

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BSG, One rider that had Marquez Style was FREDDIE SPENCER. There is a video of Spencers/ marquez riding Style on You tube I listed the name of the video On a thread in racing forum . The video is old (mid 1980s) so its not real sharp as it was done on Film, but its informative Spencers throttle control is so precise its amazing . he goes through a corner sliding both tires while trail braking , then goes through switchback and the suspension hardly moves from same level qhich keeps load on tires constantly and evenly . BTW Kenny Roberts SR also had this unique style and now Quatrarro.
 

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. . . If marquez was riding for Yamaha and the Yamaha MotoGP bike was going into tank slappers . . .
Like this:grin2::grin2::
https://www.facebook.com/MotoGP/videos/quartararos-super-scary-sachsenring-moment-at-262kmh/343457489889047/

Yes, the Yamaha has had its own tank slapper. But they are caused not wholly by chassis configuration, but by a set of track/tyre/rider circumstances where all three are taken beyond the limit. Both the Mazrquez and Quatararo examples are not (in my opinion) set off by a bad handling bike, but by one or a combination of the aforesaid circumstances.
 

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Hi Nigel, Yes Yamaha and KTM both had there own tanks slappers but they seemed to at least sort that problem out 2-3 races ago.Honda has the manufacturers and the riders title just about sewn up. Nigel if you where the race director at HRC would you be investing Money in Marx Marquz bike right now?


NIGEL... You KNOW I am dying of curiosity over the design and construction of the new revolutionary Aprilia RS-GP. I am Biased towards anyone who has the balls to try something outside the box.
 

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I don't remember Freddie Spencer riding off the inside of his tire and picking it back up again. The pic below is one Marquez recovered from and at the time entry was over 100kph. Has anyone ever seen anything like it before? It is dumbfounding.
Freddie spencer wishes he could do that :)
 

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Quartrarro has had a great rookie season but nothing compared to Marquez . Marquez won ? 12? races in his rookie season ? and against an top of form Rossi and Lorenzo.
Rossi was not at his peak in 2013 coming off a terrible 2 years with Ducati where he did not win a single race. I would hardly call that in form let alone top of form. I would suggest his peak was in the era of 2002 where he won 11 of the 16 races. He finished no lower than 2nd for the other races he finished and retired in 1 race. 2001 - 2005 was his peak. You are referring to a period >10 years after his peak....

Marquez isn't the first dominant rider and won't be the last. His dominance will be questioned too and sooner than many think. That is the thing about champions they breed a whole new bunch of guys just like them and better than them. Much like Marquez looked up to Rossi when he was a kid Rossi looked up to Doohan, someone who looks up to him now will take his title.
 

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. . . Nigel if you where the race director at HRC would you be investing Money in Marx Marquz bike right now?

Yes, I would. As race director I would be concerned with maximising the performance and results of my team. If I feel confident that MM can win races and championships I will accede to his requests - no matter any personality differences or suggestions of abandoning Honda.

My loyalties and allegiance would lie with HRC and not an individual rider. And that is why I have also bent over to help Lorenzo (tank modifications etc) albeit without significant result.:wink2:
 
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