[jdgun]

After the last couple rides on the F3 800, I feel the need to do something with the throttle. There is no issues with fueling (TY Ecu studios) and bike is very responsive, but the length amount of twist to get to full throttle is way to much.
has anyone used a different throttle tube, or possibly this?


https://www.hsbkracing.com/parts-an...tal-throttle-conversion-control-unit-w-cable/

 

[Black_Gold_Saw]

What do you consider "way to much" twist for full throttle?

Just throwing this is an comparising, my bikes throttle twists about 25-30%.

 

[BSR-1]

ECU Studios allows you to change the throttle ratio.

 

[jdgun]

What do you consider "way to much" twist for full throttle?

Just throwing this is an comparising, my bikes throttle twists about 25-30%.

TBH anything more than 1/4 is to much. I run the 1050 throttle tube on my 675R (about a 1/4), I run a similar setting on my 1199S and it feels spot on especially with the power on tap, response galore. On the F3 800 I think 1/4 turn would be a good start, maybe even a tad shorter,




BSR-1, any ideas how ECU studios would play with the cable operated throttle I posted?
When I had my flash done, I had the response set between full race and street, so maybe I need to have this put to full race or have the response changed?

 

[BSR-1]

BSR-1, any ideas how ECU studios would play with the cable operated throttle I posted?
When I had my flash done, I had the response set between full race and street, so maybe I need to have this put to full race or have the response changed?

Your F3 is not ride by wire?

 

[BSR-1]

Post # 255 details how to set throttle. I'm just going off of what I saw here. Sorry if I've spoken in correctly.
https://www.mvagusta.net/forum/106-...new-build-thread-2013-f4rr-7.html#post2579451

 

[esq'z me]

i have a Domino on my SPR (cables) with the quarter turn pulley (they come with 3 choices)...made a huge difference for me. Standard was just a bt more than quarter turn, but I can tell the difference!!!

Looks like that kit converts the F3 to straight cable and eliminates the digital ride-by-wire???

 

[jdgun]

i have a Domino on my SPR (cables) with the quarter turn pulley (they come with 3 choices)...made a huge difference for me. Standard was just a bt more than quarter turn, but I can tell the difference!!!

Looks like that kit converts the F3 to straight cable and eliminates the digital ride-by-wire???

I do not know of anyone else using this part, and I am curious how it would play with the electronics (especially as I am thinkin to buy the IMU race ecu). Would most likely resolve my random gas position sensor error also.

 

[dansoarr]

I'd change in ECU Studio, that the point of ride by wire. Changing the Throttle from RBW to traditional throttle is a very big job, its not just swapping new wires. For a start you would need a completely ECU ROM that did not look for RBW for a start.

Feel free to PM me with your questions and I'll help you out or use the ticket system on ECUStudio's website (under technical support).

 

[Al-]

i have a Domino on my SPR (cables) with the quarter turn pulley (they come with 3 choices)...made a huge difference for me. Standard was just a bt more than quarter turn, but I can tell the difference!!!

Looks like that kit converts the F3 to straight cable and eliminates the digital ride-by-wire???

My understanding is that it relocates the throttle sensor from the bar to a remote bracket, and uses a cable from a standard throttle tube on the bar to the remote location of the sensor. In this way you can change the ratio on the throttle tube to whatever you want with standard parts. You'd lose a lot of capability converting directly to a cable throttle.

 

[dansoarr]

I couldn't see that link on my phone!

Yep as you say, it appears to relocate the sensor and employ the same approach as the R1 Cable throttle to RBW. I built a 2018 R1 for an old team mate, and he bought the domino Quick action throttle kit and the ECU software, I tried to explain as he has the software the domino is redundant. As the OP has ECU Studio, the kit is redundant, so just work in the ECU, it gives you the ability to have much more control over the individual throttle mapping and the shape of the profile as well as the effective turn.

My understanding is that it relocates the throttle sensor from the bar to a remote bracket, and uses a cable from a standard throttle tube on the bar to the remote location of the sensor. In this way you can change the ratio on the throttle tube to whatever you want with standard parts. You'd lose a lot of capability converting directly to a cable throttle.

 

[esq'z me]

Another advantage of throttle cables controlling sensors is crash repair on race bikes..... This is why Suzuki chose cable operated ride-by-wire throttle sensor for the newer GSX-R1000.

If you crash and damage the throttle tube/housing you just replace those parts...cheap (relatively). Like an old non-RBW bike.

Crash a bike with the RBW sensor incorporated in the throttle tube and you may be replacing the entire sensor assembly (expensive).