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Hi All !
Was all ready to do the deal on a new 920 today when I spotted a unregistered 989r sitting in the dealers! As a potential new MV owner can you guys shed some light on the differences between the two ??
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:blah:personally and i am no expert!!
I really miss my 989r it was a totally different bike to the 920. i went 989r - 990r that packed up then 920. i really enjoy the 920 but the build quality is not the best, my chain guard fell of just after the first service and i cannot seem to get any replacement parts for it. And the one piece seat doesn't quite fit properly all though the one piece is more comfortable. A lady contacted me when she went to buy my old 989r and she bought it, she absolutely loves it. it's got more grunt, engine braking,and the gear box felt solid. the 990 and the 920 gear boxes don't feel as solid. Pluss there should be loads of after market parts available for the 989r.
If was in your position i would check the front headlight glass wasn't loose and give it a good wiggle and go for the 989r.:conveyer:
 

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920 was a step down from the 989R.....brakes, suspension etc.
 

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There's a lot of people (myself included) that prefer the earlier generation Brutie versus the newer models.
 

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While generally the high spec older Brutales are better then the newer 'budget' models from some viewpoints, you'd be hard to argue that a 989 is better then the 920.

Build quality is just as good now as before form what I've seen, and all components are beautifully crafted, so stuff at the bottom of the league is by no means bad at all.

Brutale S (750cc)
Brutale 910S - (still has more power then a 920)
Brutale 989r - Has the 910r upgrades EXCEPT for the wheels - painted black wheels a bit dissapointing
Brutale 920 - budget seat budget paintwork - electrnics package edges it ahead of a 989r imo
Brutale 910r - Marchesini wheels and all the other goodies, loads of power but a bit less refined then a modern Brutale
Brutale 1090r - Has all the goodies of the latest Brutes except nice but slightly cheaper 1 piece seat, doesn't have the integrated turn signal/mirrors
Brutale 1078rr - The DADDY of the 1st gen models - Tamburinis Brutale swansong, the finest of the finest
Brutale 990r - Has ALL the goodies, just a bit less power then the 1090rr
Brutale 1090rr - THE DADDY!

You could probably pick up that 989r a fair whack cheaper then the 920, depends if it's part of the dealership owners 'private collection' or not wether he'll sell it for what he should. I'd honestly save a bit more and get a used 990r. They were a top machine, not suprised MV realised they were too nice for the price and replaced with the 1090r, the 1090r being a ever so slightly downgraded 990r - although through the trickery of the new name they tried to make it sound better.
 

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My guess is 50 years from now, the first 750 Brutie (especially the Oro) and the 910R will go down as the most desirable Bruties from a collector's point of view. Why? Purity of design in the 750, and attention to specs and paint on the 910R. Sure, the 1078 has more power, but personally, I like the 910R paint schemes way better.

The second generation Brutie is likely a better vehicle, but then again, the Ferrari Daytona was a giant step up over the 275GTB. That being said, 40 odd years later, a 275GTB4 is a million dollar car, and an equivalent 365GTB Daytona won't bring nearly as much.

I won't live long enough to witness whether I'm correct or not, so it's easy to spout off about my opinion.
 

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My guess is 50 years from now, the first 750 Brutie (especially the Oro) and the 910R will go down as the most desirable Bruties from a collector's point of view. Why? Purity of design in the 750, and attention to specs and paint on the 910R. Sure, the 1078 has more power, but personally, I like the 910R paint schemes way better.
Having had both the 750S and the 910R, I couldn't agree more. Though I have to admit I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.
 

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I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.
Me neither.......but I don't care. A motorcycle has to grab me esthetically before I'll ride it, or consider owning it. When the 1078 came out, I knew it was a step up from the 910R that I currently own. I just didn't like the later paint schemes compared to what I had.

Another example for me was an early example of the Triumph Rocket III. My dealer had one that he had tricked out with a fancy exhaust system that made the bike sound like a big-block Chevy. I was stoked, but I just could'nt get past the esthetics of that ugly pig......and I really tried hard to like the bike.

The new generation Brutie may be a much more refined bike than mine, but personally I dont like it's looks......same for the new gen F4. Since my opinion (plus Jackie's) are the only opinions that matter when it comes to spending my money.........well, there you go.
 

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Having had both the 750S and the 910R, I couldn't agree more. Though I have to admit I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.
Yeah agree with both of you... almost. I'd suggest the 1078rr is going to be 'the one' rather then the 910R, but yeah there's nothing in it between them. The 1078 got a lot more hype though as the ultimate evolution and had the big hp to win bragging rights.
 

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Yeah agree with both of you... almost. I'd suggest the 1078rr is going to be 'the one' rather then the 910R, but yeah there's nothing in it between them. The 1078 got a lot more hype though as the ultimate evolution and had the big hp to win bragging rights.
Squibby, put a 910 and a 1078 side by side and ask 100 non-motorcyclist which one is the most attractive. Again, this is an academic argument with no direct correlation of the truth.
 

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Squibby, put a 910 and a 1078 side by side and ask 100 non-motorcyclist which one is the most attractive. Again, this is an academic argument with no direct correlation of the truth.
Lol. Okay what colours? The 910r mainly came in black and white or white and black I believe, whereas the 1078rr came in a very similar white and black and a red and silver.

If you like black and white then it can go either way. If you like red and silver then you only have one choice. Go figure which model is going to win based on the academic argument above? my moneys on the 1078rr although I don't really care what 100 non-motorcyclists would vote for. I'd rather have a 154bhp Black and white 1078 ANY DAY then a 910R for my private museum if i ever had such a thing. It's a no brainer, but Like I said, there ain't much in it except for the bragging rights and the hype that the 1078 got. The journalists loved it, and that creates a legend in popular culture thats the way it is.

Suziki TLS1000 anyone?
 

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I have only ridden older ones and an older F4, but I dig my 1078rr and the Grey/Black color of it, but is irrelevant because it will eventually be a Tamburini Stealth. I've made a concerted effort to keep the power plant MV, MV race exhaust and all that but everything else is switched, probably hurt the collectibility factor but whatever, I ride it, not collect it.
 

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Lol. Okay what colours? The 910r mainly came in black and white or white and black I believe, whereas the 1078rr came in a very similar white and black and a red and silver.

If you like black and white then it can go either way. If you like red and silver then you only have one choice. Go figure which model is going to win based on the academic argument above? my moneys on the 1078rr although I don't really care what 100 non-motorcyclists would vote for. I'd rather have a 154bhp Black and white 1078 ANY DAY then a 910R for my private museum if i ever had such a thing. It's a no brainer, but Like I said, there ain't much in it except for the bragging rights and the hype that the 1078 got. The journalists loved it, and that creates a legend in popular culture thats the way it is.

Suziki TLS1000 anyone?
Desmogged, with the full titanium exhaust, I'm getting close to 154hp.....and looking good doing it. As for non-motorcyclist, I put that in there for a reason. One does'nt have to be a motor head to have good esthetic judgement on beauty.

Ugly cars, ugly motorcycles, and ugly women are rarely classics......:)
 

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You don't make sense. Smells like the little green eyed monster is involved. ;)

1078rr is the ultimate 1st Gen brute from all angles. Anyone who says different is in the minority.

Regarding 989 vs 920, it's hard one, but I'd say the 920 has got to be better since the 989 missed out on the marchesini wheels that the old 910r and 1078rr's had which would have edged the 989 ahead in my book.

Ignoring the future classic status argument, and living in the here and now I think the only credible 1st Gen alternative to the 920 is the 1078rr. The 1078rr had a few rough edges smoothed from the engine mapping and the ride and handling over the earlier Brutes. It's the pick of the 1st gen crop easily. So the 910r is going to be a much angrier animal then the 2nd gen models, whereas the 1078rr has some of the 'easier to ride' qualities that the 2nd gen models have. (989 was a 1078 with less power and without the wheels, so again it's 'easier to ride' then some of the ealier brutes.)

EDIT: Exact differences between the 920 and the 989r,-
920 cons - Cheaper 1 piece seat, cheaper paintjob
920 pros - Traction control, much more modern display, More modern Lights styling, Easier to ride - better suspension set up

989 cons - Harder to ride, older fasioned display and lighting
989 pros - Nicer paintjob, 2 piece seat, more POWER!!!

am I right in saying the 2nd gen Brutes have a slightly higher seat? important for midgets like me.
 

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I like the 1078 just fine......and yes, it's a monster performer, but I personally think the 910 is more attractive, and it's more than enough of a performer for me.
 

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Some comparison shots....

So, Randaddy-o...this fall will set up a comparison photo shoot...you on your 910 and Cindy on her 1090RR. We'll let the masses decide!:mouthwate
 

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I only test rode a 1078 so I have limited experience of the older gen brutale. I own a 1090RR.... Its awesome!
In ten years time (or less) MV will bring out a newer version, the R11 or something like that and everyone who owns the 1090RR or 990R will spend hours on here talking about how much they prefer the 1090 and the fact that the new model has somehow lost some of its wow factor. I'll be one of them, mostly in an attempt to stop myself from breaking into the piggybank and buying one.
 

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Desmogged, with the full titanium exhaust, I'm getting close to 154hp.....and looking good doing it.
Wow...154hp at the wheels on your 910R?
 

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I chose between a 910R and 1078RR in 2008. I noticed that the turn signals and chain cover was smooth plastic on 1078.
The 910R seemed more exclusive in comparison.

My choice fell on a 910R. But if it would be a standard 910R I had to choose I would have gone for 1078.

But who cares what a crazy Norwegians think.:crazyeyes
 
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