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Hi folks, I've been using this forum (congrats in a great forum) to gather information about MV's for a while now, and thought I'd "stick my head over the fence".

My situation is, I'm back on a bike after an extended absense due to time, family, etc... Due to the laws here, I've had to go back to the start, which means I'm on a restricted license, and thus bike. That ends later this year, so I've started to look at what next.

I was pretty much settled on a new Speed Triple, and then MV was "relaunched" in Oz.. Being 52, I have very fond memories of MV in their prime, and as the new distributor has seen fit to drop the prices, a new Brutale is now looming as a hot contender.

At this stage, my questions a very simple. The bike is purely a weekend toy, so absolute performance isn't paramount, and I think the Brutale will do anything I want, and more.

1) Do folks think the 1090 Brutale a good bike to step up to, or am I just asking for trouble? My concern is wheather it's "too much bike" for me at this stage. I've read a lot about the "animal" characteristics, and I'd rather make it my 3rd bike back, than throw it up the road because I over-rated my ability.

2) It seems that the standard mirrors and pegs are the subject of some "correction" by many. Is there a "best" option for these?

3) What are the quality brands of aftermarket add-ons for the Brutale?

4) What's the overall build quality like of the new Brutale's? And how common is it to need to use the warrantee?

5) For the other Aussies - given the small dealer network, how do you manage service & support issues. I'm on the north shore in Sydney, so Gosford would be closest - but clearly not convenient.

6) In Oz, what's usual wait for parts from MV. And how common is it for the dealers need to wait for parts? Or do they carry a pretty good inventory?

Sorry about all the questions, but I'm trying to not let my head completely over-rule all logic.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
B.
 

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Welcome BFI. Advice to consider: you'll get lots of really good input on your questions in the next day or two. In order to get the most out of it, be proactive and respond. Ask more questions if you need clarification, etc, and have fun. We've got some guys that really know what they are talking about, and they'll be along here soon.
 

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.....but not yet.

My advice........if you like attention from pretty women, buy the Brutie. If you don't buy the F4 or something else. Chicks dig Brutie riders.....it's a scientific fact. Now, you're gonna get a lot of techno babble here soon, but if you think about it, I've told you all you really need to know.:smoking:
 

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.....but not yet.

My advice........if you like attention from pretty women, buy the Brutie. If you don't buy the F4 or something else. Chicks dig Brutie riders.....it's a scientific fact. Now, you're gonna get a lot of techno babble here soon, but if you think about it, I've told you all you really need to know.:smoking:
Thanks for that - I'll certainly be responding to all assistance and guidance.

You've raised a very interesting aspect of Brutale ownership that I wasn't aware of - the girlie factor.

The bike is definately a part of my hard earned mid-life crisis. I figured having the crisis sitting down (on a bike) was going to be much cheaper and less disruptive that having it lying down (somewhere else). I'm not sure whether that makes the Brutale a good idea, or a better idea.

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Hi BFI2906,
I dont see a problem with teh 1090RR overall it is a softer ride than the previous generations of Brutale ie the 1078RR and the 910R, they are trying to appeal to a bigger market of people hense the softening of the overall bike, my personal opinion is that the previous generation Brutes are the best and if you check my gallery you will see my fully tricked up 910R just about nothing is standard and the customizing becomes a bit of a sickness, the MV bikes just have something about them that makes you smile when riding them and the lines of the original Brute are to die for you cant help but go into your garage and stare at it.

for me if i got a new one i would have make quite a few changes to bring back the " animal" or character as i would call it. But never say never i might put mine up for sale and see what interest i get.

i also see you are in Sydney theres a good bunch of Brutale guy's here that you'll have a blast with.

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Hi BFI2906,
I dont see a problem with teh 1090RR overall it is a softer ride than the previous generations of Brutale ie the 1078RR and the 910R, they are trying to appeal to a bigger market of people hense the softening of the overall bike, my personal opinion is that the previous generation Brutes are the best and if you check my gallery you will see my fully tricked up 910R just about nothing is standard and the customizing becomes a bit of a sickness, the MV bikes just have something about them that makes you smile when riding them and the lines of the original Brute are to die for you cant help but go into your garage and stare at it.

for me if i got a new one i would have make quite a few changes to bring back the " animal" or character as i would call it. But never say never i might put mine up for sale and see what interest i get.

i also see you are in Sydney theres a good bunch of Brutale guy's here that you'll have a blast with.

Cheers

James
Thanks James - appreciate the feedback.

This "character / animal" thing is what's playing on my mind. Is it so aggressive as to be a problem unless your an experienced rider, or is it simply a matter of being smart when you twist the right grip?

Is it about the color scheme, shape, sound, seating position, overall feel - aesthetics if you will. Or is it about a twitchy throttle, jumpy suspension - stuff that'll bite you on the butt and spit you up the road if you're not experienced or giving it 100% attention all the time.

I'm not sure whether I'm making something out of nothing, and just being a big "girls blouse", or whether it's something I need to factor into my thinking and decisions.

Maybe the "softer" 1090 is a good way to start, and I can "toughten it up", as I become more comfortable with it. Would that make sense?

Thanks again for the welcome and your comments

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its more character than animal and the rewards are awesome, i personally think the build/ design of the original is nicer than the new one but then again the new one is now $10,000 cheaper than what i paid for my 910R 5 years ago!! My throttle is fine i have had the suspension tweaked and love the racier feel of the old one compared to the new one, the bike itself can be ridden like a pussy cat it just needs a bit more concentration if your an idiot with the throttle it doesnt matter how docile the bike is it will bite you, all the above is character and the bike itself makes you want to master it and show it who is in control, they are incredibly quick as long as you know what you are doing, i think someone could jump on the new one and go quicker sooner as the bike does feel easier to ride, i would just hope that after a while it doesnt get boring and the old Brute is anything but boring, its strange but thats the way i see it.

The new one is probably the way to go, you can always get the suspension tweaked and a louder exhaust to give it a bit more excitement should you feel the need to do so, but once you get used to it then have a go on the old one and you will see the differances i'm talking about.

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Ride a Brutale and an F4 then just buy the F4.:brutale::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4::f4:
 

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Hi Bfi, I just faced the same dilema and bought the Brute. Having owned a speed triple (and loved it) for the past 3 years, I can say they are a great bike. I have test ridden them both in recent weeks, I can say that the 1090, despite it being a bit more toned down than the old 1078 (according to all on here), is still more of an animal than the speedy. Its just got more grunt, and while the speedy will happily loft the front in first gear under power, the 1090 will do it in second too....:yo:

There is less leg room on the brutale, and just to be a little idyiosyncratic, a few less basics like a clock! But, in every other area its better. Better finish, better equipment (brakes, suspension), Better power (though the speedy's triple is a great engine too) better looking (esp agains the new bug eyed speedy) and more exotic. Here in Oz, the prices work out similar on the road, so it was a easy decision really. Speedys good, Brutale is great.

Now dealers; Go to Trooper Lu's. Yes its the other side of Sydney, but they have been fantastic. Let me put it this way, I have been to see them to just hang out a few times since ordering my brute... Central coast still havent rung me back about a test! (and I went there first). There is no comparison. Justin at troopers is a real bike guy.... thats what you want. Will parts be an issue? Not sure, I dont have that impression, but as you said, you only ride on weekends... so make it special!

Oh.... and when you get your brute, give me a yell! Im at Homebush Bay.

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.....but not yet.

My advice........if you like attention from pretty women, buy the Brutie. If you don't buy the F4 or something else. Chicks dig Brutie riders.....it's a scientific fact. Now, you're gonna get a lot of techno babble here soon, but if you think about it, I've told you all you really need to know.:smoking:

it's true. Pretty much all of what Randy said here, you should see my girlfriend mate and i've only had her since owning a brute. The proof is in the... well, i was gonna say pudding but the truth be known it's in the incredible amount of sex with hot women we brutale riders get.

We don't make the rules....
 

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it's true. Pretty much all of what Randy said here, you should see my girlfriend mate and i've only had her since owning a brute. The proof is in the... well, i was gonna say pudding but the truth be known it's in the incredible amount of sex with hot women we brutale riders get.

We don't make the rules....
Well,there you go. I think we can close this thread with that. Seaeagle posted proof positive.......in a teal bra no less.:mouthwate. And just remember, Seaeagle is an ugly man with such a pretty lady friend. :stickpoke

I told you what was coming, now didn't I BFI? :)
 

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Well, what can I say - other than thank you all for your feedback. Accepting that asking my questions on an MV forum is going to bring with it a touch of "bias" (I'm sure the answer would have been the exact opposite if I'd asked on a Speed Triple forum), It is good to get real world context.

With regard to the ladies - I guess that poses yet another question. In the lady depatement, I've been married to the same lady for 30 years. As it is, I'm well and truely in the "He punches well above his weight" category.

So the question is, if riding a Brutale is going to "complicate" that situation, should I factor that into my decision, or just accept the inevitable and go along for the ride?

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The nice thing about the Brutale is you can ride it like a speed triple if you want to, or you can ride it like a real man.

Just kidding there...

I'm your age and I have one. Ed's even older and a lot faster and he rides one. Noel is older than dirt and he just bought one and loves it. He has an F4 that he has never ridden so you may take his impressions with a grain of salt. (Gratuitous dig, Noel) So don't let your age factor into your decision. It's no cruiser, and unless your wife of 30 years is a lot younger than you, she is not going to be happy on the back of the bike for long. If you are just going to put around on it, I would not strongly recommend it. But if you have the stones to wring its neck once in a while it's a real hoot.

Question 6: I don't know the answer to how long you have to wait for parts from MV in Australia. However, there is a guy on the forum here who sells a lot of parts to Aussies; and he's not always horrible to deal with.
 

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.....but not yet.

My advice........if you like attention from pretty women, buy the Brutie. If you don't buy the F4 or something else. Chicks dig Brutie riders.....it's a scientific fact. Now, you're gonna get a lot of techno babble here soon, but if you think about it, I've told you all you really need to know.:smoking:

OH RANDOLPH - keep dreaming !!! :stickpoke
 

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The nice thing about the Brutale is you can ride it like a speed triple if you want to, or you can ride it like a real man.

Just kidding there...

I'm your age and I have one. Ed's even older and a lot faster and he rides one. Noel is older than dirt and he just bought one and loves it. He has an F4 that he has never ridden so you may take his impressions with a grain of salt. (Gratuitous dig, Noel) So don't let your age factor into your decision. It's no cruiser, and unless your wife of 30 years is a lot younger than you, she is not going to be happy on the back of the bike for long. If you are just going to put around on it, I would not strongly recommend it. But if you have the stones to wring its neck once in a while it's a real hoot.

Question 6: I don't know the answer to how long you have to wait for parts from MV in Australia. However, there is a guy on the forum here who sells a lot of parts to Aussies; and he's not always horrible to deal with.
Thanks CAG - I'm not sure I know the answer to your question re having the "stones". I'd like to think so, but that's probably ego, at least in part. As I mentioned up front, I'm only relatively new back on a bike, so still very aware of how much I still have to work on the skills.

That said, I'm not the putt around type. The best way to characterise myself is, I drive a warmed over BMW 135 manual - and just love to drive the wheels off it. I know bikes are different, but I think that points to interests, passion, attitude, etc....

Thanks again,
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I've been married to the same lady for 30 years. As it is, I'm well and truely in the "He punches well above his weight" category.

So the question is, if riding a Brutale is going to "complicate" that situation, should I factor that into my decision, or just accept the inevitable and go along for the ride?

Thanks again,
B.
Me too BFI.......33 years here. The only complication you will have to deal with is the increased attention that you will receive from your lucky lady. After all, how will she be able to resist the combination of extreme intelligence and good taste for choosing first, her and second, the Brutale, as well as the increased sex appeal from having that beast between your legs?

Brace for the expected protests and whining that is sure to come from the F4 weenies that occasionally frequent the Brutie threads. I think it has something to do with penis envy on the part of our F4 brethren.
 

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Me too BFI.......33 years here. The only complication you will have to deal with is the increased attention that you will receive from your lucky lady. After all, how will she be able to resist the combination of extreme intelligence and good taste for choosing first, her and second, the Brutale, as well as the increased sex appeal from having that beast between your legs?

Brace for the expected protests and whining that is sure to come from the F4 weenies that occasionally frequent the Brutie threads. I think it has something to do with penis envy on the part of our F4 brethren.
Congrats - 33 years is quite an effort. If owning a Brutale is going to turn me into an irresistable, love-god, then SOLD. I need all the help I can get.

Re the F4 folks, awesome looking bike. I can only imagine it's a hoot to own & ride. But my sports bike days are behind me. My 53 year old back and wrists just aren't up to it, and I'm just not the right shape for a "Power Ranger Suit". IMHO, they're like lycra - only certain people that are "approved" should be allowed to purchase and wear such apparel. Otherwise it's just either tragic, distasteful or makes your eyes bleed
 
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