[Endgame]

Hey guys. Just picked up a 2012 f4r with 670 miles on it. I love it. A couple of questions though. I notice the bike has some lag in the fueling. Is this caused by the ecu for break in purpose? If so how do I derestrict the bike for full power?

Also noticed that the sport mode will light up but does not stick. Could this also be due to the break in period?

 

[CAZCADE]

I also own a 2012 F4r. The lag in the fueling could be because Sport mode is off, however Ive read a lot of people prefer sport mode off. It is a little confusing to get it to stick though. You have to start the bike and then hold the start button for a few seconds wait for sport mode to appear and then let go and then press it again. At least thats how I got it on and havent messed with it again. I really like the throttle response on sport mode, even though its sketchy and very uncomfortable. If you get an open road in front of you after a red light it gets pretty intense.

 

[F4_Toronto]

There's a reason why restrictions are put in place for the break-in period, why would you want to push the engine and have it result in costly maintenance and problems in the long term?

 

[Ryan Stewart]

Mine stopped after the first couple hundred miles (had oil changes at time intervals instead of distance due to being idle for years).

 

[Donsy]

There's a reason why restrictions are put in place for the break-in period, why would you want to push the engine and have it result in costly maintenance and problems in the long term?

Nonsence ! ? Care to share ?

 

[Donsy]

Hey guys. Just picked up a 2012 f4r with 670 miles on it. I love it. A couple of questions though. I notice the bike has some lag in the fueling. Is this caused by the ecu for break in purpose? If so how do I derestrict the bike for full power?

Also noticed that the sport mode will light up but does not stick. Could this also be due to the break in period?

Typical bad MV fuelling mate, welcome to the forum, have you had the latest fuelling maps done by the dealer?

 

[F4_Toronto]

Nonsence ! ? Care to share ?

Since you claim it be nonsense, why don't you educate me instead. Always open to learning new things from experts.

 

[CAZCADE]

The whole break in period thing has been done to death. I agree with donsy though that modern 4 stroke engines should be broken in the moto man method. I asked the head mechanic at the mv dealership this when i bought them bike and he told me the same thing, that they make every engine run through all the rpms including redline before they ever assemble them on the bikes. I was told to never baby the bike.

 

[Donsy]

Since you claim it be nonsense, why don't you educate me instead. Always open to learning new things from experts.

Three things, no-one claimed to be an expert but you had a good go anyway , I just thought I'd have a go also.:naughty:

Then, it sounds like the gent either messed with his mapping and is obviously still struggling with it, so that could be his problem, I can't find the easy dash instructions for the R, but the F4 one I have might help, maybe some of the other guys will chip in to help the guy with his dash set-up.

Lastly, read this, he's an real expert - http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

The whole break in period thing has been done to death. I agree with donsy though that modern 4 stroke engines should be broken in the moto man method. I asked the head mechanic at the mv dealership this when i bought them bike and he told me the same thing, that they make every engine run through all the rpms including redline before they ever assemble them on the bikes. I was told to never baby the bike.

Yup

 

[F4_Toronto]

Well, you did state that what I said was "Nonsense" and therefore it was quite clear that you know more than me, which I think is very possible. :naughty:

Now...I have no idea who Pat McGivern is but he does need to get a new web site designer to bring him out of the early 90s. With that being said, I cannot deny his engine break-in logic but even he's unsure of why engine manufacturers still require a break-in period for new vehicles. Is it warranty related or some other reason, who knows, might just be old habits that no one wants to change. I think it would give manufacturers an easy out if you did not follow optimal usage instructions and tried telling them that Pat McGivern said it did not matter.

Anyways...this Pat McGivern guy has some interesting reading material so as stated earlier, always open to learning something new

Three things, no-one claimed to be an expert but
you had a good go anyway , I just thought I'd have a go also.:naughty:

Then, it sounds like the gent either messed with his mapping and is obviously still struggling with it, so that could be his problem, I can't find the easy dash instructions for the R, but the F4 one I have might help, maybe some of the other guys will chip in to help the guy with his dash set-up.

 

[Donsy]

Well, you did state that what I said was "Nonsense" and therefore it was quite clear that you know more than me, which I think is very possible. :naughty:

Now...I have no idea who Pat McGivern is but he does need to get a new web site designer to bring him out of the early 90s. With that being said, I cannot deny his engine break-in logic but even he's unsure of why engine manufacturers still require a break-in period for new vehicles. Is it warranty related or some other reason, who knows, might just be old habits that no one wants to change. I think it would give manufacturers an easy out if you did not follow optimal usage instructions and tried telling them that Pat McGivern said it did not matter.

Anyways...this Pat McGivern guy has some interesting reading material so as stated earlier, always open to learning something new

Okay, my bad then. When speaking to a high up in the supply train about this matter a couple of years ago, I was told that due to the amount of Newbies who get onto new Superbikes nowadays, it was sort of common sense to keep the "running in" thing in the manual, in order to give them time to settle in and get to know these bikes.

Honestly, I think the rest is just people afraid of change after years of tradition, even if it's not the best for the motor.

As I've said before, we have heaps of guys who bring their brand new bikes to a trackday to run them in properly.

 

[Seismic]

Typical bad MV fuelling mate, welcome to the forum, have you had the latest fuelling maps done by the dealer?

Since my bike (2012 F4R) hasn't shipped yet - dealer said it's never been started - should I ask them to see if there's any updates? How would I go about explaining to them what needs to be updated? Thanks

 

[Donsy]

Since my bike (2012 F4R) hasn't shipped yet - dealer said it's never been started - should I ask them to see if there's any updates? How would I go about explaining to them what needs to be updated? Thanks

The dealer should know man, if not...............:jsm:

 

[Dana Kincaid]

Aaargh. Really looking seriously at a 2012 F4R. If you were buying one, what mods would you do to her right off?

 

[Endgame]

Typical bad MV fuelling mate, welcome to the forum, have you had the latest fuelling maps done by the dealer?

No I havent had it to the dealer yet. I would assume Pro Italia would be the closest to me. What map should I ask them for?

 

[Endgame]

Got the aport mode to stick. Made the bike a real hoot to ride. Still has the flat spot at 5-7k. Gonna bring it in and get a map set from pro Italia. That being said should I get rid of the emmisions and decat this thing with a new filter before I bring it in?

 

[J_Spec]

If you're going to have it tuned, have it tuned after the mods to get the most out of them. Otherwise you may have to take it back and tuned again.

 

[Blackout]

I own a 2012 f4100r. few pointers

Break in: push that bitch hard. I have done this with all my bikes and always get great results and no issues.

Fuel: if your not going to replace the stock headers and rear exhaust out then get a race Ecu or microtec Ecu, or dyno jet pc5 , or Bazzaz (what I have) and it will come with a corrected fuel map for the stock setup.

Upgrading headers and exhaust: I you do decide to upgrade the headers and exhaust then you will need to get a custom map built with what ever fuel management hardware previously referenced above.

Currently my 2012 has a MWR air filter, motor corse race headers, Bodis all new titanium slipon, Bazzaz management, custom map with 185 rw


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[Seismic]

dag - what do you have done aesthetically to your bike? It's very sharp! Looks like new wheels as well? How much would I expect to pay for new wheels? I'm about to take delivery of my first MV and it's the 2012 F4R and I'm not super keen on the stock wheels.

 

[Blackout]

Hey man,

Without going through all my upgrades aesthetically I flip flipped the white pant and added a bigger bolder red stripe, aftermarket rear sets, Bar ends, geared it, moto coarse flange, sprocket holder, frame covers, and yes the wheels are race motor coarse, carbon fiber air covers, front and rear hugger, and some other stuff I can't think of. The wheels cost me 1100.00 new however at the time I ordered them i was purchasing other upgrades so I got 30% off my entire order. Hope this helps. Oh yeah after market from and rear seats too.


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