Someone tell me what type of oil you or your dealer used when you got your 1st service please and thankyou.
everybody has to have somebody to keep them in check. i totally missed that page though. i was freakin out. had a friend at another shop buying my oil for me couse its cheaper than at the dealer i purchased the bike from. luckily with the help of donsy i got him the info before he got tired of waiting for me to locate the info needed. i love this forum. so much info. i even appreciate sarcastic info:yo: Im guilty of giving that a lil myself.Don't worry, Donsy does that to everyone :laughing: he doesn't miss a thing! Probably a good thing when he's racing his F4 giving it everything that it has! :smoking:
Exactly, I could not agree more, if you follow everything they say & then you have a problem, they have no come back on you. If fact, you are the one that has hand.I'm sticking to what the designers and engineers of the engine recommend.
I was unaware that such a thing was possiblelol Rob, goes with working offshore, I say it as it is, no pussy footing around. If you give it out, you got to be prepaired to take it too
I note you "over service" your bikes Rob? why is that? too much cash, pass some this way if you care
back to the oil; you cant go wrong with the shell oil I advised and its far easier to get hold off than many oils on the market.
Agree 100% - my method of looking after bikes has held me in excellent stead - so I am not messing with it! Simple - my bikes, my money, my way.What exactly do you mean Rob? in one quote you say you over service your bike and then you say an over service isnt possible?
so what do you really mean.
There is one saying (if it aint broke dont fuck with it), sure regular services are required, especually if a warranty is involved.
Through-out industry especually with Shell, BP, Mobil and various companies I haved worked for including the above; servicing has drastically been cut back, including PM routines infact, weekly/3 monthly/6 monthly routines have mostly been removed as un-required, this was not down to saving on labour although obviously that was a consideration.
tend to disagree with your comment that not all servicing costs money Rob, I guess it depends on how much you value your time for one, also depends on whether you keep a nice supply of shims at hand and whether you re-use gaskets etc
chain adjustments, brake bleeds etc aint really servicing these are just carried out as and when required as part of bike ownership, kind of a habbit you get into with daily riding checks, you find your chain is slack, you adjust it, not really a service.
But to aswer your point on over servicing; yes; you can over service and it is proven through the likes of the above companies not to be productive as well as the possibility of work being over looked or done incorrectly.
As previously said many weekly checks, 3 monthly/6 monthly mechanical checks on various equipment have now been scrapped world wide with major oil companies.
Just how quick do you expect a "oil" to break down as you put it? Might have to bring this up at the next morning meeting offshore. Hopefully you can inform me more on the breakdown of oil please.
P.S. if you know anything about the breakdown of Glycol's and Amine, that would be a great help too as we are having problems with our glycol & amine at present.