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Hi all,

I went to my local dealer today and drove 3 bikes...the brutale 910, the bmw r1200s, and the ducati monster. Well I really wanted to buy the brutale but for my first street bike I see why others say its not a great 1st choice...it seems you either have to be at 6k or higher or if your down low it doesn't seem happy. That bike though is awesome!!!! I just found it too be a very commited type bike and you have to always think when your on it. The monster I down right hated...I didn't like the power delivery and it felt cheap. Next came the BMW and it was very nice and versatile...though the telelever suspension felt very diconnected on the road and in turns but I liked the anti dive characterisitics of it and the ability to turn abs on and off. Then I went up the road to the local triumph dealer and drove the sprint st..this bike is very nice...nice linear power delivery..not overly too much for a first rider but I know if you really get it passed 6k it really moves...as I found out on some back roads....it also gave great feedback in its suspension..all and all its the bike i think i'll be buying..but eventually I will find my way back to the brutale I am sure...but for now I think the triumph is a nice first choice. :yo:
 

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you really accomplished a lot today

now, when you spend this money, you'll know that you got the RIGHT bike for you
well done

i think you will LOVE the sprint st....
it is a great bike

and..... i love that kind of bike.... hence my BMW K1200GT

please stay around this forum and continue to contribute....
we'd love to see pictures of your ST and hear some ride stories

good luck
and thanks for this thread



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My friend has the new Triumph Sprint and he seems to love it!!

Totally different from an MV though!

I drove a sprint up the east coast of Tassie... too laid back for me! and it wouldn't pull away easily in top gear with my weight on it totally different to the Suzuki GSXR 600 I had!
 

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Money issues aside, buying the "best bike" is easy. (just read the magazines, figure out what your friends think would be cool and take in a bunch of crap from the internet.) Buying the best bike FOR YOU at a particular point in time - now that's considerably tougher. Sounds like you're well on your way.
 

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Typically, it is best to go a little overpowered in a first bike because one becomes accustomed to power very quickly. Once that happens, one becomes easily bored with the power limits of the bike. I'd suggest going with a stronger power delivery eg the Brutale. Just go easy on it as a learner, then enjoy and never get bored. Doubtful your skill levels will reach the bikes full potential anytime soon! Enjoy!!!
 

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Ricster, it sounds like you have done right by yourself.........much better than me at least.......I saw the bike in a magazine, then in person and then read everything i could and lerked around here for a while, and ultimately bought one.........never been happier on a bike........except on the autobahn.
 

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Snappo said:
Typically, it is best to go a little overpowered in a first bike because one becomes accustomed to power very quickly. Once that happens, one becomes easily bored with the power limits of the bike. I'd suggest going with a stronger power delivery eg the Brutale. Just go easy on it as a learner, then enjoy and never get bored. Doubtful your skill levels will reach the bikes full potential anytime soon! Enjoy!!!

I could not disagree more wholeheartedly, Snappo. A first bike should be tremendously underpowered and light, so that you are afforded the luxury of making mistakes without hurting yourself or others. A smaller bike will be much more forgiving AND will cost a lot less to fix when you drop it. Motorcycles don't react like any other vehicles and it takes some time to get accustomed to what one will do in a given situation.

Insurance and accident rates are both high in large part because of new riders getting on bikes that are too large for them. Japan has a tremendously better record with motorcycle riders, primarily because they have a very rigid tiered licensing system.

I could go on and on, but I have to get back to work so I'll leave it with this...buying a big bike as a first bike is a VERY bad idea. Buy something small and junky (yet reliable), ride it for six months and get your beginner incidents/spooks/issues out of the way, then sell it for the same as you paid and buy the bike that keeps you excited. I've ridden probably 70% of the bikes out there up through 2003 (when I left the business) and the Brutale is the first bike I've had my hands on that continues to turn me on every time I see it in the garage and every time I get on it.
 

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Giomanach,
ABSOLUTLEY AGREE! A Brutale is NOT an ideal first bike. It is too easy to get in trouble faster than a new rider (or for that mater and experienced rider) can react. Start with less power, learn how to RIDE and then move up. You'll be glad you did.

Chuck S.
 

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Hi ricster,

I asked this on the other thread you wrote on but do we understand correctly that you are a new rider?

Maybe consider a versatile and sexy supermoto like a Husqvarna SM610 or a TE610 if you want dualsport riding. Or if you prefer German the new F800 sounds and looks (I've seen it static at least) to offer a good first experience. There are many many great bikes that are available to new riders these days: sv650, F650, Monster 695, supermotos, etc, etc. Utilize them to learn on. Your learning curve is much faster this way.
 

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ricster... in your first post you said first "street" bike. If it's your first bike period, I'd suggest you go along with giomanach's suggestion. get a beater low-cc bike or a used dual sport. Ride it. get the rookie stuff out of the way, sell it for what you paid and then get what you like. You'll have a better idea of what kind of a bike YOU want. More touring, picking up chicks, hooliganism, canyon-carving, track days, whatever... Then get the bike to match.

DON'T buy the best bike, buy the best bike for Y-O-U.
 

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brutale riding

I ended up buying the sprint st today. It will be my first street bike...I have had dirt bikes and quads when I was younger. I felt rather comfortable on this sprint and found the power quite acceptable. I am 41 and quite mature and understand what power can do in the wrong hands...hence why I didn't buy the brutale as a first bike...because it wasn't linear it was actually like an on/off switch and it quite honestly scared the crap out of me when the power came on. Eventually like I said I will be back and I will be riding a brutale with a power commander to reduce that on/off switch like throttle. :yo:
 

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congratulations on a really nice purchase. your on/off throttle observation of the Brutale 910 is accurate. however, i found that changing my grips to a larger radius and stickier grip really helped smooth out the throttle control issue - plus a couple thousand miles in the Brutale saddle has not hurt.
 

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Big Bike / Small Bike

IMHO for the amount of money you are spending: GET TWO. A big bike (Brutale) and a small bike. Ride them both depending on the situation of the ride. You can get a lot of good valuable practice and experience on the small bike. Go to Track School and use their rented bike.....you learn a lot from the experts. Big Bike or Small Bike....go slow at first, ride paranoid and ride longer.:blah:
 
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