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Hi guys, I got an 08 MX-1, inside says made in China. My previous Alpinestars, an 04 SMX was made in Italy. And I'm considering the race replica, but to be honest, at that price, I don't want to read that the suit is made in China. So I called Alpinestars USA. to ask the question. The answer was "is made in Europe" , so I asked about the MX-1, and the answer was "It's also made in Europe". So I realized, the guy was just lying to me. I told him that I have one of the MX-1 made in China in my hands. His comment, was that some are made in China, others in Italy , some others in Rumania, etc, but the quality is the same. I really don't believe so. Any thoughts, comments or experiences? Thanks:jsm::cry:
 

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The ones in China probably also have asbestos or lead in them. Look for a recall (like everything else made in China) soon.
 

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I sure becomes a problem that nothing from China can be trusted anymore.
Biggest problem I think is the replica stuff, it seem ok but then............

But most stuff come from China or Taiwan and these these problems are maybe 0.000001% of the total market.

I would just call alpinestar and ask them.
 

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Vanson is made here in the US.

Well sort of. They are actually made in Massachusetts, which is a socialist commonwealth, but close enough.
 

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I like Dainese too, but my body fits better in Alpinestars. I heard about Gimoto, but haven't seen one yet. They look ok in pics, but the reality could be different. Not easy to buy a good suit in this days anymore...
 

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Twist the Throttle went through an entire show taking you through the process Alpinestars stuff is made, and they said everything is made in Italy. I think i would be pretty curious as well, if not pissed b/c that stuff ain't cheap
 

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I think the professional racer stuff on the show is made in Italy, but the everyday off the rack stuff is made in China. I have a pair of GP plus gloves that are made in China.
 

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I have an Alpinestar Tracksuit made in China a pair of their SMX-plus boots made in Croatia and a pair of their track pants made in China. So where ever labor is cheapest for that month is where it will be made!
 

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My first leathers back in the day were Bates from Cali. I've got a nice Vanson/buell jacket made in Mass. My latest leathers are Fieldsheer - Made in China. BTW. I heard a rumour that Vanson was moving some production to Costa Rica. My ICON jacket & gloves and AStars pants, gloves and jacket are all made in China Seems like everything is made in China any more.
You have to wonder how this is all going to end up. I sure hope the Spyke Brutale jacket I've ordered doesn't say Made in China.
 

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I sure hope the Spyke Brutale jacket I've ordered doesn't say Made in China.
actually it might say made in romania :) ..they make suits for spyke and axo in a factory in a small medieval town called odorheiu secuiesc
pretty place,went there last summer but couldn't figure out where the factory was
some guy advertised on local motorcycle forums that he could get factory direct suits but he didn't came through,heard he was fired

also sidi makes most of the boots here,dainese makes boots,jackets and higher end gloves,etc it's sad that we can't get them here at reasonable prices,but hey,that's global economy for you, thing is you need skilled labour in order to make complicated stuff like motorcycle boots and gloves and they are very time consuming to produce,but over here i can safely say that there are some pretty good leather workers especially in transilvania where most of these factory/workshops are located,in general stuff made in the EU is pretty good,since quality control is pretty tight,iso standards are hard to get and keep and without them you can't export anything,
for example i had a electrolux air conditioning unit made in sweden,it worked fine for 15 years,no rust or anything,i swapped it for a new model(also electrolux) since the power efficiency of the old one was pretty lousy,the new model is made in china and already all the bolts have started to rust,had to tighted a couple myself before installing since they came pretty loose from the factory,i filled a warranty complaint with them but apparently the "problem" is that i live in a marine enviroment and salt corrosion is to blame,:wtf: i'm surprised they didn't blame global warming for my rusty bolts, :shitfan: i wonder how the old one survived so long without rusting away in a marine enviroment:violin:

i woudn't worry so much about the made in china part though,everything is made in china these days and if the quality control is tight then the product should be just as good..it should be a bit cheaper though since the manufacturing costs aren't as high as in romania for example,not to mention italy

btw a small anecdote,word is that armani,versace,valentino and all these high end designers who charge the world for the leather wear that they sell commission the designs over here,but without the liner,then they are shipped to italy,a liner and "made in italy" badge is added and voila..a 2000 dollar jacket
 

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It's getting though to find things which are not made in China now adays. Good thing is that the awarness of the public is raising. Consumers are asking today were is made. They reject products made in China and pay the extra for made with pride in the USA or made in Germany. And thats the way we as customers can show the manufacturers how we feel about their crap. And it is never a good idea to just order from a catalogue.
 

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:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Apart from the diminished snob value of having a suit 'made in China' ,,,,

Is it any good? Have you found any problems with it's quality?

Why bleat on about it being made in China unless there is problem.

I have a set of MX1 they don't even have a 'made in' label,,,,, bugger they must be fake ? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

They do however fit like a glove, look beautiful and comparing the quality and build to my old Alpinestars, I am sure they will also save my 'attached' Hyde just as well?

I love the saying; "proof of the pudding is in the eating"
True statement. But why an Alpinestars employee would lie about the procedence? and why do we pay more than before when it was made in Italy? and would you trust your MV Agusta if it was made in China? and are you willing to pay the same price or more for it? I DON"T.
 

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I have been on the receiving end of many a 'pointed' question and I know you don't always respond the way you should under duress. The employee goaded by the pointed question responded by excusing the item not being made in Italy,,,, stupid boy !

You pay the ticket price wherever it is made. Do you think that Gucci or Armani or whatever, are made in Italy? Not.

It is irrelevant where it is manufactured.

What I think is relevant is that the goods are of the standard and quality that you expect for what you have paid. If not,,, then complain.
That's what I'm talking about. There is less quality in my MX-1 than in my SMX. I wonder why? haha MADE IN CHINA..Stupid enaugh to see the difference. And no it is not irrelevant where products are made.
 

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I have the new race rep from A*'s, and that's manufactured in Romania.
Doesn't bother me, suit is awesome.
My mates A* Vector suit is made in China, quality seems perfect.
They may not be manufactured in Italy, but I'm sure they go through the same quality checks, no matter which factory they are assembled.

I guess attitudes are different all over the world about where different goods are manufactured. I try to judge on the quality of the actual piece rather than being influenced by the made in "***" label.....Having said that though, usually I would never spend top money on anything made in the USA, which is probably a very different attitude to others.

Clothing with a made in China label doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Have a look at your Nike runners....bet they're made in China.
 

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Good luck with that thinking. I just hope not to see Ferraris , porsches ,Agustas ,etc made in China.
 

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That's what I'm talking about. There is less quality in my MX-1 than in my SMX. I wonder why? haha MADE IN CHINA..Stupid enaugh to see the difference. And no it is not irrelevant where products are made.
Why don't you just return your suit for a refund, stating that you feel the suit is of a lesser quality than your previous Alpinestar suits.

A products country of origin or cost shouldn't be taken as any form of indication of quality.
 

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I don't think It matters where things are made. its the control and the inspection and testing that matters.

Quality is not a "made In" label

My mother used to work in the textile industry before it went abroad

they used to make supermarket brands next to top designer brands the control was exactly the same for both products
 

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This is getting more interesting....so, you think the top racers like Dani, or Nicky or Casey, etc , will be happy to wear their suits made in China? Hey it's not the label. It's about the quality.
 
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