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Are there any other kits for the F4 750 other than the 800cc from Fast by Ferracci? I have heard that there is a 907cc kit out there, anyone know? Please let me know I am trying to get the most out of my bike without having to buy a 1000. Thanks in advance!!
 

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Hi, um jovanotti11,

HRT in Italy worked closely with the factory, you could say. Theirs is the best developed kit and is 860cc. It is also the most expensive. A number of people have this kit in use at this point and all are extremely happy from what I gather.

Some good information on it can be had in German at:

www.mobil-tech.de

Direct link:
http://www.mobil-tech.de/index.php?page=product&category=11&product=bigboremv
-check the links at the right for dyno, pics, etc.

Günther Geissler there speaks English.
 

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HOW MUCH GAIN IS THERE MADE WITH THIS KIT? SO IF I'M CORRECT, THE KIT IS LIKE $2500 WITHOUT SHIPPING? I ALSO SEE THAT THE CAST HAS AN MV STAMP, SO IS IT AN ACTUAL MV PRODUCT? ALSO, DO THEY DO A CORE EXCHANGE? PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANKS.
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Hi, um jovanotti11,

HRT in Italy worked closely with the factory, you could say. Theirs is the best developed kit and is 860cc. It is also the most expensive. A number of people have this kit in use at this point and all are extremely happy from what I gather.

Some good information on it can be had in German at:

www.mobil-tech.de

Direct link:
http://www.mobil-tech.de/index.php?page=product&category=11&product=bigboremv
-check the links at the right for dyno, pics, etc.

Günther Geissler there speaks English.
 

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Looking at their links I see:

Brutale 750, from 124CV to 147CV

2000 F4: 123CV to 142CV

EVO2/3: 137 to 154

SPR: 141 to 160


All crank numbers. Curves look quite good:

http://www.mobil-tech.de/pics/zylinder/mvagusta/drehmomente.pdf

I've seen torque somewhere but can't locate it now. Similar gains.

No exchange that I've heard of, parts are yours to keep. Pistons, rings, block, eprom. HRT 'worked very very closely with the factory' you might say :laughing:


I, along with a few others here, have a good online friend with this kit in his Brutale. To say he is happy with the kit would be a gross understatement!!

I would consider the quality to be as good as factory :smoking:

4.150,00 € is $4,953.24 with today's exchange
 

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SO WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO? I'M CONSIDERING THE 800 KIT FROM FERRACI WHICH IS ONLY 60cc DIFFERENCE FROM THE 860 KIT. THE DIFFERENCE IN MONEY IS LIKE $4300.00. FERRACI CLAIMS A 10% GAIN WITH THEIR KIT WHICH WOULD BOOST THE EVO2/3 TO 150 AT THE CRANK. SO IF THESE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST GO WITH THE FERRACI KIT? I WANT THE MOST PERFORMANCE WITHOUT BREAKING MY POCKET AND GOING TO A 1000. ALL YOUR OPINIONS MEAN A GREAT DEAL. THANKS.

JamesC said:
Looking at their links I see:

Brutale 750, from 124CV to 147CV

2000 F4: 123CV to 142CV

EVO2/3: 137 to 154

SPR: 141 to 160


All crank numbers. Curves look quite good:

http://www.mobil-tech.de/pics/zylinder/mvagusta/drehmomente.pdf

I've seen torque somewhere but can't locate it now. Similar gains.

No exchange that I've heard of, parts are yours to keep. Pistons, rings, block, eprom. HRT 'worked very very closely with the factory' you might say :laughing:


I, along with a few others here, have a good online friend with this kit in his Brutale. To say he is happy with the kit would be a gross understatement!!

I would consider the quality to be as good as factory :smoking:

4.150,00 € is $4,953.24 with today's exchange
 

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I would spend the money on tires, education, and track time.

But that's just me. I don't mean to be a smart ass. I just don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
 

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jovanotti11 said:
SO WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO? I'M CONSIDERING THE 800 KIT FROM FERRACI WHICH IS ONLY 60cc DIFFERENCE FROM THE 860 KIT. THE DIFFERENCE IN MONEY IS LIKE $4300.00. FERRACI CLAIMS A 10% GAIN WITH THEIR KIT WHICH WOULD BOOST THE EVO2/3 TO 150 AT THE CRANK. SO IF THESE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST GO WITH THE FERRACI KIT? I WANT THE MOST PERFORMANCE WITHOUT BREAKING MY POCKET AND GOING TO A 1000. ALL YOUR OPINIONS MEAN A GREAT DEAL. THANKS.


Unfortunately all we've seen are promised numbers from FBF as far as I know. I don't know anyone with the kit whereas I know several with the HRT kit including one person I'd trust above all else.

I know it's expensive but so are a replacement engines...

Try the FBF kit and let us know? :naughty:
 

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I'M CONSIDERING THE 800 KIT FROM FERRACI WHICH IS ONLY 60cc DIFFERENCE FROM THE 860 KIT.
If you want to put it like that, then the Ferraci kit is only 50cc bigger than stock.

The effectively "learn how to ride" comment is a good one. It is the best money you'll ever spend as it works on every bike you every own from now on in.

Then revalving suspension so it works for you is wise investment too.

If I wanted more cc's I'd scour wrecking yards for a 910 from a Brutale, or buy a salvage 1000 and fix it up. One that someone posted for USD$12,000 which looked good to me. Makes more sense to my hip pocket than throwing $1000's at a 750.
 

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Are there any other kits for the F4 750 other than the 800cc from Fast by Ferracci? I have heard that there is a 907cc kit out there, anyone know? Please let me know I am trying to get the most out of my bike without having to buy a 1000. Thanks in advance!!

Sounds like you would have to spend a fair wad of cash to end up with something that probably wouldn't be as good as a 1000 performance wise. Why not flog your bike and use the cash you propose to spend converting it to get a thou? :rolleyes:
 

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:king: Go the German kit, heard some great things about these from people who have done this.

Nothing like modding your own bike. Overtime I think I will have spent more on the mods then it would have cost to just grab a 1000cc but hell where is the fun in that.

It's similar to painting your own masterpiece as opposed to buying one :king:
 

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SEE THAT'S WERE YOU GUYS ARE ALL WRONG. I'VE GOT THE TRACK TIME, THE SCHOOLING AND THE EXPERIENCE. THE PROBLEM IS LIKE MOST FOLKS, EVERYONE WANTS TO GO TO THE 1000. I DON'T NEED A 1000, I GO AROUND THOSE ON 1000'S ALL DAY LONG, I NEED A LITTLE MORE POWER ON THE STRAIGHTS AND I'M NOT GOING TO SELL A BIKE I KNOW HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF FOR A DOWNED 1000 THAT HAS A SALVAGE TITLE AND NEEDS MONEY OR SPEND $20+ ON A NEW 1000!!

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If you want to put it like that, then the Ferraci kit is only 50cc bigger than stock.

The effectively "learn how to ride" comment is a good one. It is the best money you'll ever spend as it works on every bike you every own from now on in.

Then revalving suspension so it works for you is wise investment too.

If I wanted more cc's I'd scour wrecking yards for a 910 from a Brutale, or buy a salvage 1000 and fix it up. One that someone posted for USD$12,000 which looked good to me. Makes more sense to my hip pocket than throwing $1000's at a 750.
 

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YOUR RIGHT, BUT I PICKED UP MY 2002 750 FOR 11K WITH 1500 MILES, EVEN GOING WITH THE 860 KIT AT 5K, I STILL MAKE OUT AND PUT OUT ALMOST AS MUCH AS A 1000 AT LEAST FROM WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING, AND I CAN STILL DIG INTO THOSE THAT THINK THERE SO HOT BECAUSE THEY OWN A 1000!!!

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:king: Go the German kit, heard some great things about these from people who have done this.

Nothing like modding your own bike. Overtime I think I will have spent more on the mods then it would have cost to just grab a 1000cc but hell where is the fun in that.

It's similar to painting your own masterpiece as opposed to buying one :king:
 

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SEE THAT'S WERE YOU GUYS ARE ALL WRONG. I'VE GOT THE TRACK TIME, THE SCHOOLING AND THE EXPERIENCE. THE PROBLEM IS LIKE MOST FOLKS, EVERYONE WANTS TO GO TO THE 1000. I DON'T NEED A 1000, I GO AROUND THOSE ON 1000'S ALL DAY LONG, I NEED A LITTLE MORE POWER ON THE STRAIGHTS AND I'M NOT GOING TO SELL A BIKE I KNOW HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF FOR A DOWNED 1000 THAT HAS A SALVAGE TITLE AND NEEDS MONEY OR SPEND $20+ ON A NEW 1000!!
Well, I've asked you a couple times what you're trying to accomplish. We're not mind readers. I'm glad you have the track time.

If it's for the track, have you considered oxygenated fuels and a special map? And I assume you've messed with your gearing.

As for motor kits, sorry don't know shit about them so I'll just STFU.

Add your MV to the registry :stickpoke
 

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just come across this old thread.. did you end up getting the overbore kit? if so how did it go..
They haven't been on the forum for years man :stickpoke
 

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Good, my ears needed a rest..........he kept shouting at us.
 
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