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hadn't seen this before

here's what they had to say about the brutale:


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MSRP: $14,495

Okay, first off we have to admit that we'd still want one even if it couldn't outrun an SV650 with one spark plug. We all fell in lust with the Brutale, which must be the sexiest naked bike ever.

"Within seconds of laying eyes on the Brutale I declared it the winner in the appearance category," BC comments. "If you have yet to see this bike in person, you are missing out. The flowing lines and attention to detail are exactly what you would expect from a high-end Italian motorcycle."

Leading the way is a headlight that looks as if it began to melt on some supersonic run before cooling in its sleek oblong shape. On either side are gigantic gold-anodized Marzocchi fork tubes, a full 50mm compared to the scrawny 43mm units on its competitors. Then there's the instrument binnacle that looks as aerodynamic as gauges can be molded, and there's a wonderfully shaped fuel tank that holds a no less than 5 full gallons of gas, the most in this group. And then there's that wonderful lattice-work of chro-moly steel tubes wrapping around a pretty motor, joined at the swingarm pivot area to beefy aluminum castings, followed by perhaps the coolest factory exhaust pipes ever, complete with the historic brand name inscribed in a matte satin finish on the wicked dual-diameter slash-cut cans.

Whew! Got the idea we like the Brutale yet? Well, it's actually not all, "Grazie mille, Signore Tamburini!" A little something was lost in translation from styling to ergonomic execution.

"I was sure I'd love the MV until I got on the bike the first time," relates the 5-foot-10 Becklin. "The extremely compact riding position made me feel cramped, and the handlebar and peg placement made the ergos odd and disconcerting. The riding position - footpegs forward and handlebars back - doesn't feel right."

The Brutale's steering-head-to-seat distance is clearly the shortest, the main reason why it constricts taller riders. Even the MCUSA staffers who most resemble pint-sized Italians, Hutch and I, felt the riding position was quite compressed and took some time to acclimate.

"The bike is very compact, the seat is hard and the riding position is quite upright," observes Hutchison, a 5-foot-8er. "This all equated to what I thought initially was the best because I like being close to the front wheel a la moto-style. This required a different approach when riding it hard on the track but it was great fun."

When they named the bike Brutale, they must've been referring to the seat. Its scooped design locks a rider in place with no room to move around, plus it slopes forward uncomfortably. Add in the fact that it's too narrow for good support and its side edges are sharp and unyielding. This makes for a unique experience when hanging off the inside of the bike such as when on the track, as the sides of the seat cleave into the pilot's butt crack. It'd been since Kenny's stay in the Pen that any of us had been violated like that. "They jabbed my butt cheeks with unrelenting ferocity," Becklin recalls in his nightmares.

Now, as we discuss the Brutale's four-cylinder motor, we'll get back to the praise mode again. This is simply one of the best sounding Fours ever. It produces a tasty guttural growl from the airbox up front, then trailing a delicious wail from the fetching shotgun exhaust. Power builds much earlier than expected for a multi with the smallest displacement, and its hit at 6000 rpm packs a wallop that's sure to loft the front wheel. Its clutch is cooperative when launching at normal revs but becomes grabby when racing for pinks.

"The 910cc engine may be of the smallest displacement in the test, but the four-cylinder layout enables it to make as much if not more power than the rest of the field," notes BC. "It really has a good amount of power down low and, like most Fours, only gets better as you bring the revs up."

The MV's overachieving motor impresses on the track even more than on the street, allowing the rider to reach into the five-digit realm of the tachometer for maximum thrust. This broad spread of revs yields gear-selection options, and the engine's only glitch is a slight abruptness when reapplying throttle. Descriptions of the Brutale's transmission ranged from "buttery smooth" to "near effortless." BC experienced a couple of missed shifts, but since the rest of us raved about the tranny, we suspect a rotation of the adjustable tips of the foot lever would've alleviated his problem.

In the twisties or on the racetrack, the Brutale's chassis feels ultra-rigid and capable, but yet it doesn't give a rider as much confidence as the Tuono and Monster.

"The MV's cornering capabilities received mixed marks in my notepad," says the prolific Chamberlain. "Turn-ins felt very quick and the bike would easily go in any direction you wanted. Once in the corner, the bike tracked well and for the most part felt very stable, but the front left me a little skeptical - it just didn't give me the positive feedback I was looking for. I think a lot of this has to do with riding position and how far up over the front of the bike the rider is positioned."

The Brutale is less happy during the more mundane chores like running short errands or commuting on the freeway. Adding to the merciless seat a complete lack of wind protection, sparse instrumentation and a fairly harsh suspension makes the MV less agreeable in day-to-day use. And its mirrors are nearly useless, providing only blurry images of your arms. Adjustable footpegs are a nice touch.

When it comes to brake calipers, those in the know understand they need to be radially mounted and have 4 pistons, right? Not necessarily, as the Brutale's conventional-mount 6-piston calipers are excellent. Boasting surprisingly good feedback and plenty of power without harshness, they scored high in our ratings.



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Yikes.....I wanna see pics of the wrecked bike, and more importantly, what'd they wreck it on? 2rd place...I raise my BS flag proudly. I'm 6 foot tall and have th limbs of somebody around 6'10" cause I'm so skinny and lanky. Like Jack from nightmare before christmas. I don't find the cockpit of the Brutale cramped at all....
 

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Just published today, I haven't even read the whole article yet, just browsed through it.
 

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Sorry if I offend all you American guys, but that is a load of crap. I have not brought an American bike mag in years, and now remember why. Again what a load of crap.
Maybe I should copy what they wrote down here?
For what it's worth I love the Brutale ergo's and hard seat etc... perfect.
 

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Sorry if I offend all you American guys, but that is a load of crap. I have not brought an American bike mag in years, and now remember why. Again what a load of crap.
Maybe I should copy what they wrote down here?
For what it's worth I love the Brutale ergo's and hard seat etc... perfect.

Greg.... obviously we all love it to
1. why is it "CRAP?"
2. do you really think that ANY motorcycle mags are worth a shit?
3. the brutale seat does suck...
and everyone on earth.... and this forum knows that

none of us bought the bike for the seat
it is a piece of garbage
material
shape
"feeling"

all bad
but the bike is the sexiest, most amazing bike ever made



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I gotta say as a two time Brutale owner, I absolutely agree with their opinion on the Seating position. As I mentioned before, I tried 2 different sets of handlebars on it. I never fit! I'm a little over 6ft. However I find the F4 1000 really, really good, but my F4 750 was a literal pain also! Go figure......
 

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I think it all just goes to show how subjective riding/owning/testing a bike is. I bought the 910R after I tested a Tuono, a TnT, and a Speed Triple. Yes, I was already in love with its looks, but I still wanted to be able to ride it - I'm a big boy! It 'fitted' the best, and maybe my fat arse compensated for the seat. To be frank, only the Triumph had what I'd call a comfortable seat.

As far as bike mags go, I'd vote for Australian Motocycle News any day! :)
 

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I dunno, I just don't get it. I find the seat outstanding. I am 5'7" and have a small arse. I can move around on the bike just fine. Maybe it is because I am used to spending 2 hours or more at a clip on a road bike saddle. I find the bike extremely comfortable. As for the wind protection, what the hell can they complain about. Yeah, is sucks on the freeway, but what else would one expect, it is a NAKED bike. I owned a Monster S4R and hated that riding position. The handlebars were too wide and the bike felt nowhere near as planted as the Brutale in the twisties. I also don't get the comment about not being able to "outrun an SV650 with one spark plug".
Maybe I am just in a bad mood.
 

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Funny thing; From when i first got the bike,I found the seat pretty comfortable although it got old, being locked in just one position. Then the seat started to delaminate with the cover pulling away from the foam.
I just got a replacement seat under warranty and it seems hard as a rock with uncomfortable sharp angles. I wonder if they changed it.
 

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What happened to the KTM Superduke? Isn't that European? Gets rave reviews...looks frickin' awesome as well.... ?
 

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.........did the test really say the 'one sparkplug Suzuki' thing?? That's absolute BS. Even the 750 Brutale didn't want for power!
 

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Yeah I guess I was just in a bad mood. I just hate journo's in mag's nitpicking on stupid stuff and ignore the big picture.
You know, things like the latest Jap rocket is more comfortable than a MV or Duke or whatever, and then what's the first thing a guy with a Jap bike do when they head to the track? they change the pegs, the bars, the seat, the ride height, the suspension etc etc, you get my drift. I'll go take some panadol and have a lie down.
 

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Greg Albert said:
Yeah I guess I was just in a bad mood. I just hate journo's in mag's nitpicking on stupid stuff and ignore the big picture.
You know, things like the latest Jap rocket is more comfortable than a MV or Duke or whatever, and then what's the first thing a guy with a Jap bike do when they head to the track? they change the pegs, the bars, the seat, the ride height, the suspension etc etc, you get my drift. I'll go take some panadol and have a lie down.

HAHAHA..>Dude....those are SPOT on....GREAT points!!!!

Especially the point about changing everything, lol. That's awesome.
 

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.........did the test really say the 'one sparkplug Suzuki' thing?? That's absolute BS. Even the 750 Brutale didn't want for power!
It's poorly worded, but they mean that even if it was pig slow, they would still want it. It is the most powerful and quickest bike in the test, despite being the smallest displacement.
 

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I got fed up with mags because most of the bike tests it feels like the author is struggling to say something so just stuff comes out of their mouths pens? But I think there is a difference I would take it that a lot of people on this forum are not into changing their bikes every few months to get the latest xxx. In general we seem happy with our lot, I know I am and am settled and will keep the MV for many years and although looking at other bikes, continuously, it would be as a second (or more) bike.
There are 2 parts to riding one is riding that you can get from any bike whatever it is even a Harley (in trouble now) and the second is the soul and ownership thing. Some bikes have it some don't and I think if you jump from bike to bike you will never have it. I bet even the journos have a favourite bike in the garage that is not the best etc. but has something else.

Wow what a load of crap for this early in the morning.
 
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