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I have two metric bikes (MV and Guzzi), but have minimal investment in metric wrench and hex set. Does anyone have a recommendation please?

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I have a lot of different tools from a number of manufacturers. What to buy depends on how often you will use them but, for the casual mechanic I like the Craftsman wrench and socket sets however I bought mine when they were US made. But their very small 1/4" drive ratchet sucks. Now from China. Kobalt is decent also but probably Chinese. I feel that some of the best wrench and socket stuff is made by Snap On but cost a fortune. For screwdrivers and hex keys, I feel that Wiha (German) is the best however PB (Swiss) makes some very nice hex stuff. For pliers etc, Knipex (German) has very nice stuff. Griot's seems to have a lot of nice tools and runs sales every so often. I like their stuff, esp their $20 on sale 49140 screwdriver bit set.

For tools that have no moving parts and for applications requiring less precision, Harbor Freight is my go to for stuff like pry bars, hammers or tools that I know I am going to break or don't care if I do. Nevertheless, Pittsburgh through HF has some very nice black composite ratchets that I feel are excellent. And their tool cabinets rival those from SO in terms of quality and functionality, but not in price. A last comment is that Vessel makes very nice screwdrivers, including those having an impact feature and those for JIS Phillips screws.

Of course, if you really want to spend a fortune, Hazet (German) would be happy to ruin your bank account, but not your bolts.
 

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For a basic wrenching set I would just get something from your nearest big box hardware/home improvement store. Things like your first ratchet handle, hex sockets, allen sockets, and crescent wrenches. Home Depot and Lowes have lifetime warranties on their hand tools; so if you crack a socket, you can take it back and get a replacement that same day. Very convenient.

After you build out this initial set, you can start upgrading what needs upgrading. Maybe nicer ratchets, specialty tools, etc., but only as you need them so you don't end up blowing your money on shiny German things (which is very easy to do). I love my tools but also like to save some money for bike farkles. :brutale:
 

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Really, thanks for suggestions and comments on my question. I do appreciate quality tools, but my background is more wood working, and believe it or not fossil cleaning at a local museum (270 million year old Dimetrodons--Permian age). I have some goal to be able to do basic maintenance on both my Guzzi and MV. That would be oil changes, chain/shaft maintenance, Guzzi valve adjustments, brake maintenance, etc. Valves on the MV look way beyond the average home mechanic ability. So yeah, I am going to start shopping some.
 
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As Rob Caso stated - Snap-On is excellent but not cheap. Personally that is what I use and highly recommend. Buy only once and no need to buy again. They will replace anything that breaks or is damaged. Snap-on will make you happy but it comes at a premium. Easy to order on-line if you don't know a service delivery dealer.
 

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As Rob Caso stated - Snap-On is excellent but not cheap. Personally that is what I use and highly recommend. Buy only once and no need to buy again. They will replace anything that breaks or is damaged. Snap-on will make you happy but it comes at a premium. Easy to order on-line if you don't know a service delivery dealer.
You buy SnapOn tools on eBay.......same guarantee....
Verify that they have NO initials or other markings...if that matters to you
Best deals...... 2 unused sets, 6-32mm, box end and open ends $162 In the kit rolls from the same guy......
Both kit rolls marked "2nd set"

This is about 20% of my sockets......standard on top, metric on the bottom......the nickel plated ones at the top are my
Grandfather's 8 points......
The 2, 1/4 drive long ball ends on the left I made, SnapOn doesn't sell them >:)
 

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Most of my gear is Snap on. I would highly recommend at least investing in their ratchet wrench, which can be fitted with a fine tooth mechanism for using in tight spaces, and if it breaks can be replaced free of charge.
 

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Hi,

I have two metric bikes (MV and Guzzi), but have minimal investment in metric wrench and hex set. Does anyone have a recommendation please?

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Hey lucydad. I had to buy a 24mm combination wrench to remove the gearbox drain plug on my V7 III since a socket wont fit in there without removing the headers.
 

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Another vote for snap-on, all my ratchets, sockets and wrenches are from them. Screwdrivers and hex drivers (allen keys as we call them)are from Beta and Wera.

In my experience you can get less expensive tools with a lifetime warranty but if they break they often ruin the fastener which is a far bigger problem than the broken tool. I have never had a 6 point snap-on socket fail or round off a nut or bolt, and I am talking lots of crappy rusted and/or over tightened fasteners.

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This is unacceptable porn

you buy snapon tools on ebay.......same guarantee....
Verify that they have no initials or other markings...if that matters to you
best deals...... 2 unused sets, 6-32mm, box end and open ends $162 in the kit rolls from the same guy......
Both kit rolls marked "2nd set"

this is about 20% of my sockets......standard on top, metric on the bottom......the nickel plated ones at the top are my
grandfather's 8 points......
The 2, 1/4 drive long ball ends on the left i made, snapon doesn't sell them >:)
omg>:)>:)
 

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You buy SnapOn tools on eBay.......same guarantee....
+1 or keep an eye on local CL ads.

Having top brands in your tool box does not mean you’ll be a top tier tech and having access to correct assortment is more critical than the brand. For occasional personal use, “commodity “ brands such as Craftsman or Husky area good choice plus they can often be found on sale.
 

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Hey lucydad. I had to buy a 24mm combination wrench to remove the gearbox drain plug on my V7 III since a socket wont fit in there without removing the headers.
Or you could buy a pair of Knipex parallel jaw pliers #86 03 250
Shown loosening the 41mm axle nut on an early 1st Gen MV
 

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