Yes this would be my other concern in this, coming from the New York City area where we are seasoned and have seasonal type weather every year, with normally some pretty cold days coming through in the winter, but even quite a few "colder" days in the fall or other times of the year,. where we still like to ride but need to be geared up accordingly.
Cold weather starts are a problem most of the time, only because most guys do not understand or refuse to understand the difference in chemical make-up of the Li battery as apposed to the old stuff. watch this please -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBfvR1EJJBk
:smoking:
I understand that this topic has come up here before and may even god forbid come up here again and with this I am certainly open to having this topic moved elsewhere on the forum if anyone feels so inclined in having it done.
The only reason for this to be moved to another section, is because it's not only a F4 related question, but also applies to other models on the forum, and should be seen by guys from other models who do no frequent the F4 section.
I also appreciate all the due-diligence already done here on this by others, here on the forum (sincerely), but don't know personally if I see this issue as completely resolved just yet, or that cut and dry, in terms of a topic not needing or requiring any further consideration.
What I mean by that or why I'm saying this is:
Example: After having viewed Donsy's link I felt pretty strongly that the units built with the charging mechanism built inside them, meant to keep each of the individual cells enclosed balanced, seem to make the most sense, as did the seeker who had been asking at that time, but by the end of the thread he or she seem to still end up navigating back toward the Shorai unit anyway. Which I know is the most popular in this segment of course but I'm not so sure makes the most practical sense especially when factor in the separate charger needed and when(not if) you eventually need a remote location boost, or jump start, away from your home when you don't have the proprietary charging apparatus even with you, or you happen to be at the track on a colder day shit out of luck,.. without the bike willing to start,. etc,.. or get caught in a storm etc, with both a dead battery, your pants down/missing lost,.. (no pants) and a whole in your boots, during a hurricane etc. Hey shit happens,.. right?
In mild seriousness though:
After fooling around for awhile with different flee-bay/bag Chinese made crap of every color scheme and type in the world for batteries and everything else under the sun,.. it's kind lost it's fun for me. buying questionable crap for 25 dollars less then ideal, because it's 25 dollars less and were supposed to all be stupid.
I'd now like to, really like to get something near full-proof, with near full-proof performance, in real world performance type situations(i.e life)- NYC tough and able to handle a little cold,.. chill,..sniffle's,.cough, cough

but still get the job done, day in and day out like a real man!.. I mean battery

You know what I mean
That doesn't need a whole gaggle of supplemental parts, accessories and the alike just to keep functional or reliable. That's all. Simple
Is that asking too much?
*No serious question:
Is that asking too much? unrealistic maybe? Not now- maybe later?
Go buy a solar-panel and tape it to your back kid type of thing maybe?
Really not sure.