always loved the f4, but after several broken bones including two broken wrists, i had to go for the brutale, always loved the m.v's since i started riding, but realized after accidents couldn't ride a sports type bike,(f4) but love the brutale now wouldn't change it for the would. but in summary my first love was the f4.:blah:
Wow, lots of replies in just a day and a half. Reason I asked in the first place is because I have an 06 F4S and I am going to have to give it up. It has been at the dealer for 4 months for a blipping issue below 3k RPM. And after tons of parts replaced, hundreds of test miles, and the F4 being disassembled and reassembled numerous times I dont want it anymore. Looks like MV USA is going to buy it back.
I rarely drove it to begin with since it was such a rare and uncomfortable bike but still love the MV look. The Brutale is alot more comfortable and I would use it more often.
fazer6, You are right the brakes and suspension are better than the 05-06 F4S. I think the 910R more resembles the F4R and 312. Do you know if the Brutale has the dual radiator like my F4S had. Does the 910R and 910S have dual radiators.
Also, you mentioned the gearing is a little different on the Brutale. Do you know if they have changed individual gear ratios and/or the final gear ratio?
Thanks for dealing with all my questions. Just trying to get enough info as I can before making a next bike decision.
Final drive is much EDIT: HIGHER on the Brutes, but also the gearboxes are different, mostly in the upper gears, giving the F4s much more top end speed.
Brutales all have one radiator and an oil cooler. They don't have the heat issues of the F4s due to the lack of fairings trapping the heat.
How about AMA pro roadracer back in the day ('70's - you do the math), 2 lower back surgeries, 1 neck surgery, 1 shoulder surgery, multiple knee surgeries and an ankle surgery since. Been a litt;e hard on the old bod and it just doesn't bend like it used to. Brutes rule!
Impressive background and record. I don't blame you one bit. No pain-no gain and all that. I have the usual lousy problems from age with my bod but still ride my F4. Just not for very long or as agressively as most. However I don't even come close to being what you are/were, and I envy you for it.