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I'm looking at buying a used MV, either a 1078/1090 or a 800RR. I'm selling my current bike because I miss my big naked (Triumph Speed Triple) and want to get back on something similar. I'm drawn to the B4 for obvious reasons, but I love the look of the 800RR. I've test ridden a 2015 1090 and was blown away by the power, but haven't had a chance to ride an 800 yet.

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I was in a similar position when shopping for the MV Brutale. I tested a left over 2015 800RR at the local dealer. The bike was light, very flickable. I might have even bought it as the deal was very sweet, but I came to look at the B3 after riding a 910 for the better part of that day. For me torque was the deciding factor and in the end I ended up with a 1090RR. Rode it today, great bike, stable and freaking powerful. I am not an expert in MV, as such everything I've mentioned here is from personal experience.

As a side note, I ended up with an MV after spending a bit of time looking for Tuono Gen I and/or II. I like their V2 Rotax engine but unfortunately I could not find a bike that I truly liked. I feel getting an MV was a step up but I still have a bit of yearning for a Gen 2 Tuono Factory.
 

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I currently own a 2010 B4 1090RR and a 2015 B3 800RR...

I personally prefer the 1090RR, but my wife prefers the 800RR.

I find the 800 a bit buzzy, but it does everything well in a light package.

The 1090 is power all day long.

I'd guess the question might revolve around what you seek in a bike.

I am 6'2" and 250 pounds, my wife is 5'6" and roughly half that weight. Inseam doesn't matter as both bikes are about the same seat height. It depends on your preferences.
 
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I test rode an 800RR, loved the 3 pipe look and knew the power would be "enough". Also tried the 1090RR and thats what I ended up with. I just found it more comfortable, which is strange because both riding positions appear quite similar.

The 800 you need to work at, needs revs. The 1090 you just have power everywhere.

If its a looks thing, then you can always change the twin exhaust on the 1090 to a single, then both bikes look pretty similar, especially with a seat cowl on. If you like spoked wheels of the Dragster then you can buy Kineo wheels after market for the 1090 or 800RR

The 800 comes with more up to date electronics, the 1090 just has traction control. Cant say I miss what I never had, and when you read of the issues people have sometimes, less gizmos are better.

Overall both are great bikes, if you just rode either one in isolation you would likely buy it, it really depends on where/how you ride.
 

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I was in your shoes rather recently myself.

Tested a Dragster RR which I love the looks of (best color combo Black and Red) and took my buddies 1090rr out a few times lucky for me again the best color combo. The 1090 is tried and true, lots of years worth of development and these guys on this forum know the ins and outs about these bikes.

So upon listening to the powers that be on this site and doing a lot of research for myself I went with the 1090rr and I absolutely love her!!


Now IF only I could find a way to get a dragster seat and ass end mounted to the 1090 >:)
 

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Cosmetically the Dragster RR with spoke wheels is my dream bike, but well outside my budget. I don't know what the used market is like elsewhere, but depreciation is savage on MV's here in new Zealand, so maybe in a few years. I'm leaning heavily towards the 1078/1090 over the 800 simply because I miss the massive torque of my Speed Triple. I'm short (5'6") but don't have an issue with larger bikes. My current bike is a Husqvarna 701 SM, and I don't struggle at all with the seat height.
@Tirefriar, Tuono is definitely on my short list. However in the used market you get a better deal over here on MV's - I guess everyone is still a bit scared of them (which is ironic seeing as the Tuono has a huge list of reliability issues).
 

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Wait for the new B4 Dragster

But as you’re buying second hand Might have a wait !

Ride both if you can - the 800’s are fun bikes

As above the 4’s will be updated next year .,


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Cosmetically the Dragster RR with spoke wheels is my dream bike, but well outside my budget. I don't know what the used market is like elsewhere, but depreciation is savage on MV's here in new Zealand, so maybe in a few years. I'm leaning heavily towards the 1078/1090 over the 800 simply because I miss the massive torque of my Speed Triple. I'm short (5'6") but don't have an issue with larger bikes. My current bike is a Husqvarna 701 SM, and I don't struggle at all with the seat height.

@Tirefriar, Tuono is definitely on my short list. However in the used market you get a better deal over here on MV's - I guess everyone is still a bit scared of them (which is ironic seeing as the Tuono has a huge list of reliability issues).
The inseam is a big issue with Aprilia, they are tall in the seat. I too was surprised that the used market favored Aprilia Tuone over the MV B4 even though the MV is a much better looking bike. They are held in much greater esteem, especially in their home country. The Rotax powered Apes are not bad in terms of reliability but the V4 generations are much more needy. Still, the V2 is on my bucket list...
 

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The Tuono is more like a sports bike with flat bars, has more plastic than some sportsbikes and quite a sporty riding position still . I wanted to like it, but did not find it comfortable, and not really a "naked" bike in anything other than target market.

Depreciation is bad over here on MVs too, they are 1/2 price within a few years, I think people are still fearful of the reliability, however the mature B4 platform has proved faultless for me, in 3 years/7k miles :)

I am waiting for the new B4 ...if its 200bhp and looks like an RVS, I will have to have one :)
 

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Any reason I shouldn't do a deal on this bike? Not my favorite colour scheme, but I could live with it.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1558470327

This is the bike I test rode. Hate the seat (fixable) but love the engine. The clutch had a strange feeling, like a lot of "lash" before the engagement, but it didn't feel wrong, just strange compared to other bikes I've owned.

It's fairly tidy and original.
 

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That bikes seems to be very fairly priced, especially in NZD.

The clutch feel can be improved by a good bleeding or even fluid replacement using quality DOT4. It is a slipper clutch and there is a certain clunkiness to it.
 

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Drop me a PM mate...I'm the nominal leader of the MV Owners club of NZ.

That 1090 is a fair price, but I think you'd be happier on a 1090RR - which that is not.

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Thanks cruiser, will get in touch. I ended up buying that one from the dealer - I agree I'd be happier with the RR, but what I needed was a reasonably priced, preferably local bike from a dealer, allowing me to trade out of the bike I was on without losing too much. This deal let me do all of that, so I just bit the bullet.

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Very nice looking Brute!
 

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B3 b4

James has owned 750,910, 1090 and now 800 in that order. Where are you @Sydney910R; ?
Hi Richard, I'm still around just been busy with life /kids etc!!
Out of all my Brutes the only one 1 I miss is the 1090RR its smoother and had a lot more torque than my current 800RR. However the 800RR is so light and so much fun to ride on a short/long blast especially with the new electronics and I love the up/down shifter. Don't think I could go back to bike without one now!!
 

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I'm willing to sell my Dragster rr for a 1090 rr I like the extra comfort and It has more room for touring, I'm doing a lot more long distance riding than I used to do in the past.
 

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I recently found a 2013 1090RR in mint condition for around 8500. My 2017 Brutale 800 (standard model) is now going out of the two year warranty and has 6000 miles on the odo, where this 2013 1090rr only has 3k miles on it.

I'm almost considering trading my B3 in for this bike but haven't test ridden the 1090rr if it's such a noticeable leap in torque?
 

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I'm looking at buying a used MV, either a 1078/1090 or a 800RR. I'm selling my current bike because I miss my big naked (Triumph Speed Triple) and want to get back on something similar. I'm drawn to the B4 for obvious reasons, but I love the look of the 800RR. I've test ridden a 2015 1090 and was blown away by the power, but haven't had a chance to ride an 800 yet.

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Side by side, the Dragster is the larger bike between that and the 1078 Brutale, it sits a good bit higher and the tank is sitting higher and wider too.


The 800, does feel lighter, it is a lot smoother and ofcourse has the quick shift gear change both up and down the box (depending what year), you can simply throw it in and out of corners with ease.


stepping off the 800 dragster and getting straight onto the 1078 Brutale, the first thing you feel is the much lower seating position, although the pegs feel higher up, as if rear sets although they are not.

You regularly scrape your foot when cornering on Dragster, you dont do this with brutale, or at least I haven't yet.


Once riding the 1078, you feel the grunt and the power of the bike right away, and the snatchy throttle when in in traffic


I am holding onto both bikes at moment, trying to keep the Dragster as a better weather bike, and the brutale an every day all weather one,

In time, when an F4 comes along, I will be trading in / selling / the brutale and swapping for the F4

sitting side by side, The Dragster is a higher sitting bike than the Brutale

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just saw you have bought the bike posted above, congrats
 

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