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TV hand protectors blinkers as additional permanent light?

Hi everyone,

I'm asking myself if it is possible to have the hand protectors lights acting as :
  • Blinkers (orange) when indicator is activated
  • permanent light (white) when indicator is not activated
I'd like to know if it is possible and if it is possible how to make this happening, as it extend the visibility of the bike for others.

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I'm asking myself if it is possible to have the hand protectors lights...
Get a Stradale

A much better bike.

But with the holes :frown2: in the hand guard where the running light is, the resulting light leak makes the night ride a nightmare.
A black foam plug solved the leak.
 

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Hi Marc,
next to the indicator light are space for 1 LED light (small LED), there could be a white LED find a place ...
the first TVL showing on EICMA 2013 had this LED in... see the pic...
I guess MV decided to get rid of the superb light!! Maybe some legal rights in some countries.. what a shame!! I would like to have them !!!

see Pic :
 

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Get a Stradale

A much better bike.

But with the holes :frown2: in the hand guard where the running light is, the resulting light leak makes the night ride a nightmare.
A black foam plug solved the leak.
Actually looking at the references of the hand protectors, they are not the same... Probably the reason is the lights are not the same (because the rest is apparently the same). Need to check out in more details, because at the end, if it is the case, rest of the story is just a wire routing story
 

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I guess MV decided to get rid of the superb light!! Maybe some legal rights in some countries.. what a shame!! I would like to have them !!!
Don't think it's about regulations.

The Stradale running lights,
same casing as the TV, but with six bright blue-white LED where the TV has only a blank face, make the bike unridable at night.

The only way to stop the running lights blinding you on both sides at night is to plug the hand guards.
 

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Don't think it's about regulations.

The Stradale running lights,
same casing as the TV, but with six bright blue-white LED where the TV has only a blank face, make the bike unridable at night.

The only way to stop the running lights blinding you on both sides at night is to plug the hand guards.
ok, this may explain why they dropped them on the TV post 2013 presentation...

Hi Marc,
next to the indicator light are space for 1 LED light (small LED), there could be a white LED find a place ...
the first TVL showing on EICMA 2013 had this LED in... see the pic...
I guess MV decided to get rid of the superb light!! Maybe some legal rights in some countries.. what a shame!! I would like to have them !!!

see Pic :
I was not thinking about it this way, but some led exist able to display 2 colors. I remember having seen a picture of a TV (don't remember where it was) where the owner is likely to have made a mod to have exactly what I have in mind: lighted white unless blinking, where it would be lighted orange... This would definitely visually enlarge the bike from front, enhancing the visibility on the road.
 

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You're absolutely right!! When you find something please let us know
 

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Thinking again about the Stradale option... If my memory is correct, the rider position is more front, which means the rider's head may be in situation to see the light spot. I'm not sure it would be the case on the TV, so maybe a bit of research is worth it from that stand point as well.

Any one would have a pic of the connector on a Rivale/Stradale hand protector?

Update : Found a picture of a Stradale handguard with the connector (see attached file)

Update 2 : checked on the TV : connector has less pins than on the Stradale (not really a surprise). Did additional check: when light is on night mode, Day Running Lights are off on the TV, which means the issue @Arcimboldo faced with the Stradale would not happening on the TV. In short, there should be a way to make it the way it is done on the pictures you published @Gero HH. Maybe the most difficult will be to find the proper connectors (if someone has an indication for this, it may be easier)

I'll go to my dealer in two weeks from now (the spy seal is dead on the rebound side, and it starts to be a real concern while on curvy roads) and will ask the question.
 

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I added the 5.5" led bar light between the forks and would love to add white light on the hand guard ends. I would like to add lights to the rear, like the Billie Light from Clearwater, but it doesn't work on the TVL.

I will examine my bike this evening and look for options on the hand guards.
 

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Bright lights near the turn signals make it difficult to see the turn signal flashing. It may be necessary to interrupt the white light while the turn signal is activated.
 

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Get a Stradale

A much better bike.

But with the holes :frown2: in the hand guard where the running light is, the resulting light leak makes the night ride a nightmare.
A black foam plug solved the leak.
Why is the Stradale a better bike? Curious
 
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Why ... ? Curious
It has running lights on the handguards!
TV has just a blank face here.

At least 40 pounds lighter.

With the Rivale flat saddle the Stradale is nimble and fast.
TV has this ugly extra wide ***AND*** cramped seat with an unwelcome bump right in the asscrack.
Riding the knob might be a plus, in my book it's just PIA.

The frame, shocks, swingarm, engine and electronics of the Stradale are the same as the TV.

But >:) chust compare the Stradale design with the bloated TV



Wesh!

And the hard/soft panniers look better and aren't an extra 1k €
 

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Arcimboldo

I like the forty pound reduction with the Stradale and that would be significant if the bike was a touring bike. The TVL at about 440 pounds in the touring category is super light. I rode a GS1200R last year and bought the MV because it feels light and is much less "bloated" than the GS.

The Stradale, to me, is much like the Hypermotard 939. It is not a bike I would want to do long trips on.

Do you have a TV or TVL? I see the T. Veloce at the emoji at the bottom of your page.
 
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Bright lights near the turn signals make it difficult to see the turn signal flashing. It may be necessary to interrupt the white light while the turn signal is activated.
very interesting... can someone explain how it work on the Stradale? get the light turn off when the turn signal is on??

otherwise it can stay "on" all the time when the bike is running!!
and therefor we can just get the 12V on it... when the key is turned
 

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The Stradale, to me, is much like the Hypermotard 939. It is not a bike I would want to do long trips on.
Traded the july 2015 Stradale in may 2017 with 20 000 miles on it.
Are 600 miles trips :laugh: long trips?
Do you have a TV or TVL?
The cheapskate stea^H^H^H dealer wouldn't trade the TVL so I took the standard TV.

<green grapes>
I have no use for the inboard GPS or the heated grips and the TVL 'active' shocks need tweaking with 18 stones on the saddle.

Tackle Pyrénées or/and Picos Europa with iffy shocks, not the best move.
 

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Blinker fluid

... can someone explain how it work on the Stradale? get the light turn off when the turn signal is on??
I :smile2:

The Stradale has a four pins connector to the TV two pins.
Three of the pins are used: blinker and running light.
The running lights are always on.

The blinkers are visible day or night.
 

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I :smile2:

The Stradale has a four pins connector to the TV two pins.
Three of the pins are used: blinker and running light.
The running lights are always on.

The blinkers are visible day or night.
The cable is also longer on the TV than it is on the Stradale. It may be possible to do something as long as we are able to get proper connectors. With the running light either connected to a plus feed relayed from contact or the DRL. Advantage or relaying the DRL on the TV is that it stops the DRL when pass light and high beam are running. Advantage of relaying from the contact is that it is :
  1. Very easy to do as powered sources are easy to find
  2. it enlarges visually the bike even during the night
However, the disadvantage is that blinker may be difficult to see, and it may be too bright for the rider on the bike during the night...

In fine, we should be able to do this with :
  1. Stradale hand protectors
  2. TV connectors
  3. some additional connectors for the relayed positive
  4. some cable
  5. a fuse and a fuse box
Thinking...
 

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Marc,

I like the idea, swapping out the hand guards with the Stradale. If you make progress, please report.

I would like more light on the back, maybe around the tag and connected to the brake light. It can be done, but like you, I need to think about it.

I have thought about clipping a flashing red light to the back of my jacket, like the cyclist do. It does the job.
 

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Hi Terry,

I like the idea, swapping out the hand guards with the Stradale. If you make progress, please report.

I would like more light on the back, maybe around the tag and connected to the brake light. It can be done, but like you, I need to think about it.

I have thought about clipping a flashing red light to the back of my jacket, like the cyclist do. It does the job.
I have a spy seal dead on the rebound tube, which means I will have some time to spend with the bike with my dealer next week-end. I plan to have some talk with him about this (I'm not really in favor of modifying the wire harness from the bike). I will report if any progress.

For the light on the back, I have no issue with it, except that the blinkers are not really visible from people behind (too low, and maybe too narrow). As a result, if I have something to think about on the back side, it is the blinkers. But one thing at a time...
 
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Stradale blinkers are not the same as the ones on the TVL. The plastic parts are the same, but connectors and (most importantly!) the length of the connectoing wires are different.

Stradale blinkers have much shorter wires.

Moto-science.com (Henri Baccouche) sells both versions and has detailed pictures on his website. Take a look.
 
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