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Since when is a communist-worshipping environmentalist “right wing”?Facts 1, leftists 0.
“F*cking murdering cowards”.Speaking of that, how come when Muslims murder hundreds of Christians, all you hear from the left is *crickets chirping*.Freakin hypocrites.
Keep trying Mikey boy, you may get one correct one day. Even Franco's ghost makes more sense than you.
 

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I do like your avatar, very imaginative, unlike most.


I don't see that it makes any difference whether or not someone has an MV. I own two, I 'virtually' assign one to Dave, the TV would go well in the shaky isles. Problem solved. In my opinion, there are several participants on this thread that are racist, bigots, and sexists. Maybe not you, but there are certainly others. Dunno about paedophiles, it is probably just Andrew being an insensitive *******, again, and the fact that most of you are so ignorant and insular that you don't have any sort of ethical or moral perspective other than self-righteous fear and loathing.


This is a public site, potential MV owners can see the sort of bile that spills out about those you fear and loath, and of course Noel's handjob hoedown, or as I like to call it, the daydream believers thread, would do wonders for encouraging any potential female members.
So why am I a *******?
 

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Since when is a communist-worshipping environmentalist “right wing”?

Facts 1, leftists 0.
Well Mike FaceBook have made steps in the wake of the Christchurch shooting, to remove any and all right wing supremacist sights, PS, i hope they remove all hate sites, including Muslim fanatics. Its hard enough to get along in this world without this bile spewing from these anti social types. But for now FaceBook are targeting Right Wing Supremacists.
 

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Who do you recommend as the gatekeeper for determining what is a "hate site" and what are the parameters for such a determination?
 
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“F*cking murdering cowards”.

Speaking of that, how come when Muslims murder hundreds of Christians, all you hear from the left is *crickets chirping*.
For now Mike a Right Wing Supremacist came to our shores and wrecked havoc in 2 Mosques. He murdered 50 innocent people. This entire terrorist attack is likely to cost NZ 100s of millions of dollars. This right wing prick thought he could divide our country, but in fact he's brought us together, left middle and right NZers, we have all stood together to condemn right wing hate, and in fact all hate and racismn. Id comment if there was a Muslim terrorist attack on our people, but all the Muslims here come via refugee status, or from persecution. They deserved better here. They don't seem to be our enemy, just those that try to divide us.
 

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Keep trying Mikey boy, you may get one correct one day. Even Franco's ghost makes more sense than you.
Well here’s your typical MacRoy post. Calls me incorrect.....but no facts provided to back up your opinion. So the NZ shooter is not a communist-worshipping environmentalist? Muslims have not murdered dozens of Christians in Africa? Please let’s hear your answers and provide facts that say otherwise.

BTW surprised you showed your face here. Don’t you keep saying “socialists are coming”, “tick tick tick”? The new green bill couldn’t even get any votes from Democrats. They don’t even want to be associated with the piece of crap.
 

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Who do you recommend as the gatekeeper for determining what is a "hate site" and what are the parameters for such a determination?
Not sure Rob, but this extremist was part of a large right wing hate group, they have already made arrests in a few countries over right wing hate groups associates of this last shooter, and police went to investigate one here but he stabbed himself to death by the sounds of it. Look, my opinion is not just right wing nutters but all forms of hate on the social media sites needs shutting down. This guy board cast live footage of him shooting innocent people, he yelled racist remarks while doing so, and he praised Donald Trump for his stand on Muslims. What the world needs to do if possible is to make the middle east safe so the flood of refugees stops, I'm sure they would rather stay in their home lands if they were safe.
 

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Per NASA, a major glacier in Greenland is actually growing.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...ng-is-such-a-threat-that-it-caused-a-n2543745

Thoughts, MacRoy?
We have 2 glaciers here in NZ Mike, at the currant rate of decline, they are likely to disappear by 2050. If the Greenland glacier is growing, then thats great news, i have friend that lives and works down the south pole (they work with scientists from around the world, many from the USA actually) they should be back before winter sets in, so hopefully some better news from them, she they did say last time, that the decline of the ice shelf is alarming and consistent year after year. Hopefully some good news then eh.
 

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Native Americans have been "living on the land their forefathers have inhabited for thousands of years so please explain". Can they have their land back, tyres? Perhaps native Americans should build a wall?
Maybe you should look at your history. Search the black war. Here i did it for you.

The Black War was the period of violent conflict between British colonists and Aboriginal Australians in Tasmania from the mid-1820s to 1832. The conflict, fought largely as a guerrilla war by both sides, claimed the lives of more than 200 European colonists and between 600 and 900 Aboriginal people, nearly annihilating the island's indigenous population.[2][3] The near-destruction of the Aboriginal Tasmanians, and the frequent incidence of mass killings, has sparked debate among historians over whether the Black War should be defined as an act of genocide.
 

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Not sure Rob, but this extremist was part of a large right wing hate group, they have already made arrests in a few countries over right wing hate groups associates of this last shooter, and police went to investigate one here but he stabbed himself to death by the sounds of it. Look, my opinion is not just right wing nutters but all forms of hate on the social media sites needs shutting down. This guy board cast live footage of him shooting innocent people, he yelled racist remarks while doing so, and he praised Donald Trump for his stand on Muslims. What the world needs to do if possible is to make the middle east safe so the flood of refugees stops, I'm sure they would rather stay in their home lands if they were safe.
People are entitled to their views, but they are not entitled to hurt somebody else. Nevertheless, I'm still waiting for an answer.
 

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So why am I a *******?
It is a figure of speech as much as anything Andrew. I don't know why you would post that picture. I don't know why you posted that meme that was a rolling stones cover, the 4 democrat women. The decent thing to do would be to remove them. I actually believed that you were an intersting fella, but perhaps I was wrong. I don't think so, prove me right by deleting them. Please.
 

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Maybe you should look at your history. Search the black war. Here i did it for you.

The Black War was the period of violent conflict between British colonists and Aboriginal Australians in Tasmania from the mid-1820s to 1832. The conflict, fought largely as a guerrilla war by both sides, claimed the lives of more than 200 European colonists and between 600 and 900 Aboriginal people, nearly annihilating the island's indigenous population.[2][3] The near-destruction of the Aboriginal Tasmanians, and the frequent incidence of mass killings, has sparked debate among historians over whether the Black War should be defined as an act of genocide.
You must be one of the few yanks on this thread that knows where Australia is. I do know all this Andrew, what is your point? Have a look at my location. Muwinina country. Do you know who lived where you now call home before you all showed up, and stole it from them? Find out, I would be intersted to know.


Back awhile, before and after tyres slunk off, he did a rant about displaced peoples. Or at least his interpretation of displaced peoples, that would be the jews. As you do not seem to understand my point, I asked if his 'sympathy for displaced peoples' had broad application, because if it did, then why was he not defending the soverignity of indigenous Amercians? You following so far? Why a rule there, and not here, so to speak.
 

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Who do you recommend as the gatekeeper for determining what is a "hate site" and what are the parameters for such a determination?
For mine, there are some basic rules. Would you say it if you were on national televsision? Would you say it to or about your loved ones? Would it offend or hurt you if it was said about you or your loved ones?


Then there are the essentials. Do you have a decent understanding of all the pertinet issues? Do you have all the facts? Are you able to assess the situtaion in an unbiased and informed way, without prejudice or malice.


And the sleepers. Are there any hidden or vested interests that have not been declared? Will what one says potentially encourage others to behave in a hateful or violent way? How much influence does one have, and therefore, how much responsibility does one have to the broader community?
 

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I have a question for you.

Some weeks back, SBM and I were chatting away about Amercian culture. A nice change from politics, although in my opnion, culture is politics, at least up to a point.

Noel presumed to intervene and tell me to create a new thread if I wnated to talk about sports. How curious, I would have thought you yanks could use a break as you have not won a trick.

Anyway, I went along with Noel, who has no authority that I am aware of.

Why do you think that I did that? Anyone?
 

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Dave

I know it is a bit of a stereotype, but do you like rugby?

I watched some highlights of a Brazil v Canada game a few weeks back, the Braz forards were pushing the canucks all over the place, worst scrummaging ever on the maple leaf part. Love to see the game expanding into new countries.

It's probably a bit tough for most yanks though, if they can't call in an air strike they won't show up.
 

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DaveNZ;
You complained that we dropped atomic bombs on Japan......

Ever hear the estimated casualties/fatalities for the invasion of the Japanese home islands?
Estimated US troop casualties 1,7 -4 MILLION
Estimated US troop fatalities 400-800,000
Estimated Japanese FATALITIES 5-10 MILLION including civilians

The 2 bombs killed 226,000, half died instantly, the rest within 3 months

I keep saying there are consequences for starting and losing wars :wink2:
 

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DaveNZ;
You complained that we dropped atomic bombs on Japan......

Ever hear the estimated casualties/fatalities for the invasion of the Japanese home islands?
Estimated US troop casualties 1,7 -4 MILLION
Estimated US troop fatalities 400-800,000
Estimated Japanese FATALITIES 5-10 MILLION including civilians

The 2 bombs killed 226,000, half died instantly, the rest within 3 months

I keep saying there are consequences for starting and losing wars :wink2:
The war was almost over, the Japanese were retreating. What i hate is that the US attacks (WMD) and demonises countries that want to develop nukes, yet you (USA) are the only country to use them on another country. Your country reeks of hypocrisy. Here in NZ our Gov back in aprox 1987 i think, we went down the road of anti nuclear, anti nuclear weaponed ships were no aloud here. The US banned us from Anzus, freezing us out of intelligence, and freezing us out of war games training, for many many years we as a nation were treaded poorly by the USA, that all changed under Obama, he called NZ a very very good friend of the US, and welcomed us back into a much altered ANZUS, and we have since hosted US war ships that don't carry nuclear weapons,-fast forward to today, the US threatens Iran and North Korea for supposedly developing nuke weapons, so on one hand we are treated like leppers for being anti nuclear, and Iran and North Korea are threatened for supposedly having them, now do you see the hypocrisy.
 
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