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Learn from my mistake. I attended my first track day this past weekend at California Speedway in Fontana with Fast Track Riders. First let me say that Fast Track Riders (www.fasttrackriders.com) provided a fantastic track day and I would recommend them highly to anyone interested in getting out on the track. I signed up for the novice school which involves classroom time between your level one sessions. The problem I encountered was really nobody's fault but my own. Don't let this happen to you.

I've had my matte black '06 F4-1000 for about four months now and knew I was going to have to have my tires changed at the track. I was told that you can save some significant money by doing this at the track as tires are a lot less expensive there. My plan was to ride my first three 20 minute sessions on my existing tires and them changed between sessions. All the reputable tire manufacturers are there and will change them out for you within 15 minutes. Mounted and balanced, I was due to save over $150.00.

It never occurred to me that nobody at the track would have the required 55mm socket required to take the back wheel off. I ended up having to park my bike for the second two thirds of the day. Luckily, I had a friend there with a new R6 and he let me use his bike for the rest of the day. No it wasn't the same but at least I got to ride the track and didn't have to go home. DO NOT GO TO THE TRACK WITHOUT A 55mm SOCKET! The biggest socket Pirelli, Michelin, or Dunlop had was a 47mm for the Ducatis.

Learn from my mistake.
 

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There's one more thing too, it's not guaranteed that the tire vendor will have cones that fit the MV rear wheel to balance it.

Get your tires changed at the dealer or by someone you know has the right stuff beforehand. Ducati/Honda/Triumph stuff doesn't usually fit. I've had mine to the track a ton of times and I never get the tires done at the track. Too much hassle with the MV.

Buy yourself either a 55mm or 2 3/16" socket just in case someone at the track does have the right balance setup.
 

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Tell us more about your track day experience... were you nervous? was it as fun as you thought it would be? Was the class helpful? did you feel like you were a better rider afterwards?
 

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Aprilia,

Put it like this... I spent Monday shopping for an enclosed trailer, new Dainese track suit, a used F4-1000, and that 55mm socket. Seriously, it was insane and I'm hooked.

I'm told that the whole set up at Fontana is a real treat. You have your own garage bay, air conditioned classroom, great instructors, and it's really well organized with that outfit (Fast Track Riders). I don't have anything to compare them to but it was better and more fun than I even thought. They'll be there again on the 13th and 14th of October I think (might be 14th and 15th) if you're interested.

I was nervous and don't think I swallowed for the first 2 laps as there wasn't a bit of moisture to be found in my mouth. I got comfortable pretty quickly though and I was more concerned with dumping my bike than getting hurt. You're so much safer on the track than the street and you can really see what your bike is capable of doing. They break the class down to three students with each instructor. You wear a colored vest so your intructor can better find you on the track and work with him after your sessions. You do 20 mins. in the classroom and then take what you learned out for 20 mins. on the track. This goes on all day and yes, I know I improved and got more confident.
 

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David! Maybe i can make it out there but we'll have to see.

R^C- when i got there i got wind that there was not only the f4s on the track, but also a matte black F4. However, we ended up wondering if it was a mixup since we didn't see it for the rest of the morning. Looks like the sighting was for real! Did you see all of us out there? Stop by and say hi :)

http://mvagusta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3557
 

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Hey, Bill

Mighty glad to see you here!!!

It was a hard toss between Pahrump and Fontucky but Fontucky won hand down (ie., Wives can peruse the Ontario Mills mall while we enjoy the track. :) ) You should join us at Cal Speedway AMA layout (Think LV Speedway X10).

I will give you a call sometime this week.
 

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Hey Bill, now you are one more person I've met face to face to add to the "who have you met" thread.

I haven't been west to a track all year now. I bought a 996 and blew it up, and I'm still rebuilding it (it's a very slow process when my dad and I do it, because everything has to be right). It's my race bike too, so no racing for me. I've been out to Arroyo Seco a few times and I even brought out the MV in May.

I'd love to do another Pahrump track day, but it probably isn't going to happen this year. I spent all my vacation in December so we can be in the UK with the in-laws...
 

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Admin & Netizen,

Between trying to find a 55mm socket and the classroom, I didn't have a lot of time to make the rounds (off the track). I did however witness the MV lighting his back tire up. Come to think of it, my buddy's new truck is still covered with pieces of melted rubber. He wasn't too happy.

I rode the first three sessions on my F4 and then parked it in garage 13 for the rest of the day while I rode the R6. I wish I had met you guys and will look to hook up with you at the next event. I saw the other MV early on passing tech. but didn't get a chance to say "hello". I think the other guys just showed up and didn't ride the track, correct? Next time...
 

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We all just met with david and vince there. Tamburini, Senna, R, and S. Was a great group of MVs and your F4 would have been a perfect addition! Not one duplicate. They also took Ben's Senna onto the track (hence the pictures of the Senna in the other thread). We were there for the morning to relax and have a good time
 

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Hello~ guys
how are you? well i'm really looking forward to go there on 10-15sunday or
10-16 with pro Italia group.

question. do i have change to new trie befor the track day?
i really don't know how old is my tire because i'm the 2nd owner
other then that i'm ready i have all the gear for track ^^
hope 2 c u guys soon

take care~
STEVE LEE ^^
 

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Steve,

You should change your tires before you go so that you don't run into the problem I did (story in first post). I'm told that you'll just about go through a set of tires with only one day of track riding as well. Do yourself a favor and change them so you can ride your bike as intended.
 

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If you're just starting, you should be able to get more than a day on a set of track tires, unless you are using the softest tire available.

I would still recommend getting good tires on there before you get to the track, but you should be able to use them a while.

Even better, these newer gummy street tires like the Diablo III and Michelin 2CT should last even longer and still provide plenty of grip and fun. Note that Colin Edwards lapped inside 10% of his race time on these new street Michelins on his MotoGP bike (if I recall correctly). This is truly incredible. That means I would be happy using those tires at a track day if my purpose was not to find the limit, but to have fun.
 

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R^C said:
Steve,

You should change your tires before you go so that you don't run into the problem I did (story in first post). I'm told that you'll just about go through a set of tires with only one day of track riding as well. Do yourself a favor and change them so you can ride your bike as intended.

Hello~ R^C
i just register with fastrack on 10-15-2006 (just reg.as novice level )
i don't know if your going to be there that day but if u do then i will see you
or any body who goes there on that day
till then take care~

STEVE LEE
 

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acruhl said:
If you're just starting, you should be able to get more than a day on a set of track tires, unless you are using the softest tire available.

I would still recommend getting good tires on there before you get to the track, but you should be able to use them a while.

Even better, these newer gummy street tires like the Diablo III and Michelin 2CT should last even longer and still provide plenty of grip and fun. Note that Colin Edwards lapped inside 10% of his race time on these new street Michelins on his MotoGP bike (if I recall correctly). This is truly incredible. That means I would be happy using those tires at a track day if my purpose was not to find the limit, but to have fun.

Hello~ how are you?
well since i'm gonna be at track and i need to chage my tire
i know you mention Michelin 2ct and Diablo III, hum.. what should i get?
i'm gonna stop by at Pro Italia befor i go on the track.
 

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R^C

since you been to track with fastrack
what do i need to bring to track for 1st time?
gas? food? drink? etc....

need your advice please~~~

thank you
 
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