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People,

I have an F4 2000 model which is in excellent condition.

It is not an Oro model and has been tinkered about a bit in that some of the original parts have been replaced with decent quality Carbon Fibre.

I'm not considering selling it but also keep an eye on the second hand prices to keep an idea of how much it's worth.

I bought it in the UK in 2009 with one owner at 6000 miles for £4800 and now with a second owner (me) and around 10,000 miles might be worth £6500 on a good day.

This says to me that excellent condition MV's are going up. I have 4 beautiful Rolex watches which despite being in demand do not seem to rise in price.

I would appreciate peoples thoughts on the long term price projections of second hand MVs in excellent condition.

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20 years from now the remaining excellent condition original Cagiva MV Agustas will have become quite desirable to the motorcycle collectors. Surviving limited edition models more so.

Take a look at the 70s MV Americas 750s......
 

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Hey Sub,

I´m not an expert, but rarely one knows what item will increase its value over the years. Limited versions are more likely to do so, but still not certain.
Enjoy the bike, enjoy the watches.

Cheers,

Rui.
 

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Cheers gents. I thought about the MV America although I don't know if the F4 will have as much collectors value??

Like I say I have some nice watches (including a 'standard' stainless Rolex Submariner and a 'bi-colour' Submariner) both being excellent watches however they don't seem to have appreciated as much as the big MV which always raises a smile when I walk into the garage
 

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nobody knows. Depends on the buyer, and condition. If you had one of the few non limited ones in great shape, and there is a buyer who is looking to relive that experience, then you may be able to fetch over even a limited edition price in lesser condition. Condition/rarity, demand. the collector may be hell bent for a regular model in original unfettered shape, the collector may want a well used/loved one that he/she can recover. I think the value something can go up even beyond its material worth by "sentimental" factors, the emotional part that the material cannot explain sometimes. I hope that someday , those passionate about my vintage bike also have deep pockets! haha
 

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It may also depend on how many good examples are left, although with bikes like the MV, they are generally quite lovingly looked after, and don't do many miles.
Mine was 10 yrs old with 8,000 miles, 6 owners when she flew into my arms. An average of 800 miles per year.

If she is still in my hands I think her condition will be good, but the mileage will be high in 25 yrs. Come to think on it, I wonder if I will still be able to ride in 25 yrs?
Will be still be able to buy petrol then, what with oil running low by then? It'll be £15 per litre. These bikes will be for show in livings rooms only, a relic from the bygone petrol age.
 

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Who knows how our world will look like in 25 years ?
I would think that our idiocracied governments will have lowered emissions by than so that we will run with e-scooters, if at all.
On the other hand will be bikers might have died out in our western world.
Traffic regulations, sky high insurances made motorcycling not affordable for the young generation.
If the youngsters get off of their arses from tablets, smartphones, desktops than they look for driving a car.
Plus this young fellows mostly don't even know anymore how mechanics are working and even lesser how to repair anything.
It is a through away society we live in.
I can't see a thriving motorcycle market in 25 years.
The average riders age is almost 50 by now.
The collectors of exotic motorcycles are the same age or even older retirees.
All this collections will be one day for sale.
Might we in the fifties have than a chance to fetch a few good deals on our dream bikes before they close the gas stations and we get gasoline at the drugstore in homöopathic quantities.
Than again are we than still able to move this machines ?
Not to mention ride this bikes.
Sorry but I do not think that things will head in another direction.
Unless there is a revolution, another world war or a catastrophy in biblic dimension.
 

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In 25 years I will be 81!
Not entirely sure I will be riding my F4 then.
But.....I don't buy any vehicle as an investment.
There will be plenty of sport riders in the future, there are so many under 35 now.

Ed :)
 

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Have a look at the Ducati 916/748 to get an idea but bare in mind petrol and it's availability/cost may change the way we view bikes.
 

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I'll be 86 and hiding my own Easter Eggs by then.....
 

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HA! How'd "The Hunt" go today, Randy?:smoking:
 

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If you look at the bikes which are worth good money now, about 30-40 years old, the common factor is always 'Wow'. Allied with ground-breaking features and original condition.

The Honda CBX1000 twin shock is what I lusted after as a twenty something year old, now it's collector status. The BMW R100 or XS1100 not so much. The later Prolink will always be cheaper and not as desirable.

Kawasaki Z900, Honda CB500 or 750, all are collectible (but only the 1st editions). Vincent Black Shadow or Black Prince? No contest. CB400 SS or CB? That's not too hard to work out. The SS 550 or 750 are not in the same league so capacity isn't everything.

IMHO, the 750 Oro will be silly money for museums. Any of the 750 F4 bikes will be collectible, the Brutales not anywhere close - just because if you ask a kid to draw an MV, he'll produce an F4. The 1000 F4 may well be very similar in value to the 750, time will tell if higher or lower.

I'm taking care to retain every bit that comes off mine so that it can easily be returned to standard - even things like tyres and spark plugs will be important eventually.
 

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If you look at the bikes which are worth good money now, about 30-40 years old, the common factor is always 'Wow'. Allied with ground-breaking features and original condition.

The Honda CBX1000 twin shock is what I lusted after as a twenty something year old, now it's collector status. The BMW R100 or XS1100 not so much. The later Prolink will always be cheaper and not as desirable.

Kawasaki Z900, Honda CB500 or 750, all are collectible (but only the 1st editions). Vincent Black Shadow or Black Prince? No contest. CB400 SS or CB? That's not too hard to work out. The SS 550 or 750 are not in the same league so capacity isn't everything.

IMHO, the 750 Oro will be silly money for museums. Any of the 750 F4 bikes will be collectible, the Brutales not anywhere close - just because if you ask a kid to draw an MV, he'll produce an F4. The 1000 F4 may well be very similar in value to the 750, time will tell if higher or lower.

I'm taking care to retain every bit that comes off mine so that it can easily be returned to standard - even things like tyres and spark plugs will be important eventually.
The idea that taking the carbon fibre etc, off my F4750 and putting the plastic back on, makes it worth more seems odd. But I can't dispute that collectible bikes in original condition will appeal to more Collecters.

Perhaps the exception would be the 2 stroke market. I sold my modified Yamaha RZV500R V4 for £3500. A few years later, bikes like this seemed to double in value. The well modded one's fetching generally at least as much.

Bikes like the Yamaha 350LC fetch good money modified well against a bike in standard trim, I have seen nicely modded one's for £5,000.
Why is this though? We are talking about bikes that are basically around 30 yrs old. You can put a nice set of racing pipes on any decent 2 stroke and you will not hurt the value, only add if anything. Is it that the collecter wants to hear the 2 stroke at it's best, and that is part of the attraction?

Why then should an F4 be any different. It's hard to argue that a good set of naughty pipes fitted won't look and sound better. And for those of us with F4's or Ducati's, how many of us fit after market pipes on them?
 

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The Honda CBX1000 twin shock is what I lusted after as a twenty something year old, now it's collector status..
If you're still Jonesing for a CBX, my '79 has 1800 miles on it from new, and it's for sale. :naughty:
 

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I disagree, The 916 748 Platform bikes are going for a lower price than that of the MV. I see 748s going for 4,500-5,000 and the 916 for 6k or so. I don't see many F4's going for 4,500, I do see a few going for 8K or so. I feel that the MV will keep it's value better than the Ducs but then again Duc made more bikes than MV.
 
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