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Hi new to the forum and now very worried. Just bought a f4 750 with he intention of touring Europe. Then found the rear hub thread. Seems lik I made a big mistake? Any advice/reassurance anyone can offer?

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check the wheel for play, as long as the hub bolts aren't over tightened, along with the chain being to tight, you'll be fine.

The vast majority have gone a long time without needing replacement as long as they follow the guidelines. Service every 7500 (Grease and check). I would recommend doing that b4 your trip.
 

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You can have the hub rebuilt at a fraction of the price of purchasing a new one. I have a 2000 750 and rebuild the hub every 10000 km's out of principle and piece of mind. As long as the chain tensioner bolts are not over tightened during re-assembly you should be fine and can enjoy your trip.
Bearings needed are listed on the site somewhere, perhaps some of the UK forum members know of a local supplier/ fitter that can help you. I believe "knurl" (member on the forum can get you the bearings as well.
 

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Yeah right You bought the the F4 with the intention of touring Europe with it. I can't imagine that somebody could be as blue eyed. However the beauty of our communication age is that You can find informations on every failure on any vehicle possible. So are thousands of F4 / B4 cruising / tracking around the globe and had never a rear hub failure. And guess what, thousands of F4 riders jump on their bikes without even giving a damn f... about rear hubs. Guess what they have ton's of fun and return home with a intact rear hub. Jesus Christ if You are so afraid about a rear hub, You should give up motorcycling in general. Because it is bloody dangerous. Likewise is Live very fragile to begin with.
 

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:laughing: spose UK translation of what haupti said would be summit like
Odds of rear hub failure = Y
Odds of rider interface = Y x 5
Service it before you go - just done Pyrenees end to end no problems:smoking:
 

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To the OP, firstly welcome to the forum. :yo:

I wouldn't necesarily suggest agree that you have made a mistake. I do know of users on this forum who have toured Europe on an MV with no problems. Certainly not the most practical bike in the world but touring is possible.

I understand that you are learning about the f4 and your new purchase so on this quote:-

Yeah right You bought the the F4 with the intention of touring Europe with it. I can't imagine that somebody could be as blue eyed. However the beauty of our communication age is that You can find informations on every failure on any vehicle possible. So are thousands of F4 / B4 cruising / tracking around the globe and had never a rear hub failure. And guess what, thousands of F4 riders jump on their bikes without even giving a damn f... about rear hubs. Guess what they have ton's of fun and return home with a intact rear hub. Jesus Christ if You are so afraid about a rear hub, You should give up motorcycling in general. Because it is bloody dangerous. Likewise is Live very fragile to begin with.
IMHO the above is just toilet and not indicative of the response you will usually recieve on such a friendly forum. I personally would use information on this site to ascertain the condition of your hub. It is a known weak point of the MV (so such an extent that a fellow forum user has designed and manufactured an alternative) and in a small number of cases has failed catestrophically.

Motorcycling is dangerous but that doesn't stop you protecting yourself and other road users as best as possible. :jerkoff:
 

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Hub doubts

I have a 750 track bike and have had no probs at all.
I think the hub was designed for the 750, and can therefore cope better with the lower H.P. of these bikes.
Don´t worry, it´s a great bike.
 

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To the OP, firstly welcome to the forum. :yo:

I wouldn't necesarily suggest agree that you have made a mistake. I do know of users on this forum who have toured Europe on an MV with no problems. Certainly not the most practical bike in the world but touring is possible.

I understand that you are learning about the f4 and your new purchase so on this quote:-



IMHO the above is just toilet and not indicative of the response you will usually recieve on such a friendly forum. I personally would use information on this site to ascertain the condition of your hub. It is a known weak point of the MV (so such an extent that a fellow forum user has designed and manufactured an alternative) and in a small number of cases has failed catestrophically.

Motorcycling is dangerous but that doesn't stop you protecting yourself and other road users as best as possible. :jerkoff:
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Second attempt. The F4S (750) has a very sporty, forwartd stretched riding position, as an nineties race bike. The result is it is a real joy on the track, but has some comfort issues in city traffic, in tight turns of the alpine roads and long rides. So now where You want to go touring I would strongly recommend that You get some handle bar risers (FBF fo an example). It is fairly difficult to carry lots of luggage with You on an F4 too. Some fiddle saddle bags on their F4, other (taller riders) use tank bags, me as a shorter guy use a back pack. So a tooth brush, credit cards, a small camera, underwear to change etc, are the maximum.
Sure the rear hub issue is of great concern and You should always be aware of the correct tightness of the chain, never exceed the torque values and never wash the rear hub assembly with a power washer. If You take care of this and certified MV Agusta service, than are F4's able to reach 5 digit mileages, some made even more than 100.000 km.

No apologize to my first statement, it is simply hilarious to read why peoples buy bikes, what they plan on doing with it and what knowledge they learn from forums. But I hope Submariner that my new statement fits to the great values of the civilized mvagusta.net community.

By the way I'm longer here than You.
 

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Second attempt. The F4S (750) has a very sporty, forwartd stretched riding position, as an nineties race bike. The result is it is a real joy on the track, but has some comfort issues in city traffic, in tight turns of the alpine roads and long rides. So now where You want to go touring I would strongly recommend that You get some handle bar risers (FBF fo an example). It is fairly difficult to carry lots of luggage with You on an F4 too. Some fiddle saddle bags on their F4, other (taller riders) use tank bags, me as a shorter guy use a back pack. So a tooth brush, credit cards, a small camera, underwear to change etc, are the maximum.
Sure the rear hub issue is of great concern and You should always be aware of the correct tightness of the chain, never exceed the torque values and never wash the rear hub assembly with a power washer. If You take care of this and certified MV Agusta service, than are F4's able to reach 5 digit mileages, some made even more than 100.000 km.

No apologize to my first statement, it is simply hilarious to read why peoples buy bikes, what they plan on doing with it and what knowledge they learn from forums. But I hope Submariner that my new statement fits to the great values of the civilized mvagusta.net community.

By the way I'm longer here than You.
Man, it started off all so well but was tarnished by the swipe at the end!! :stickpoke
 

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personally, I put my comment up because I have had a rear hub fail on me while riding. Trust me, not a nice experience.
Haupti - if you think its not necessary to ever check the rear hub, thats your privilege. But to rant at a new member seeking information about a known problem that can be easily checked/ repaired is just fucking dumb, don't care how long you have been on this forum.
Man, talk about welcoming a new guy to the forum, glad I didn't have you respond to my first post
 

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No one likes you any moire Haupti!!!! Look what you have gone and done!!!! :cry:

I'm sure you are a decent bloke though mate (group hug)
 

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Easy tigers! The reason I chose an F4 to go touring on was because it's different and I intend to travel light. The reason for the post was after reading the hub threads I wondered if the bike would be reliable enough to see the trip out. I now feel relatively confident that given a bit of preventative maintenance prior to the trip it'll be ok. Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply. Even Haupti! ;) :stickpoke
 

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Whoshe, the F4S will do it without problems. Believe me I made week long tours through the Alps with mine, including day long rides to the Alps over boring Autobahns, with wharp speed. Alone You have to get ready for some pain and exhaustion after a day in the saddle. And honestly respect to You to buy a race bike for touring. I hope You find out that this thing belongs to other territory and You will find out that it shines just there the most.
The other thing I honestly mean is that it is good to know that the rear hub needs some care and attention. I made roughly 25000 miles with my F4 and I have no thoughts left over for any mechanical part once I carve through the turns. If I wouldn't trust my bike, hence the rear hub, I would never even roll it out of the garage.
It would be cool to read a report of Touring Europe with a F4 and see some inspiring photos. Good luck !
 

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Easy tigers! The reason I chose an F4 to go touring on was because it's different and I intend to travel light. The reason for the post was after reading the hub threads I wondered if the bike would be reliable enough to see the trip out. I now feel relatively confident that given a bit of preventative maintenance prior to the trip it'll be ok. Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply. Even Haupti! ;) :stickpoke
Whoshe..welcome to the forum....There are are owners who have had their MVs on the track and had no trouble and there are peeps who have had problems on the road.
If your hub is well maintained and the pinch bolts that clamp on the eccentric are torqued correctly and you keep well away from Jet washers then you should have no problems.

I have a spare set of Hub bearings I bought from USA ( don't buy Chinese ) and no longer need.
I also have a spare hub.

My strategy is to keep a spare hub with fresh bearings and then every 5000 miles or two years swap them and then change the bearings in the spare hub ready for next time..

If you don't know the full service status of the hub on your bike..I'd rebuild it with new bearings and in effect you are zero timing the assembly and know exactly where you are with it.
It is a critical part and therefore demands full awareness of it's service status..imho...

pm me if you need
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You know what: no pain no gain. Really appreciate all the forum comments. See you down the physio?
 

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Haha good on ya mate. All this moaning about comfort, harden up folks!

Enjoy the hell outta your trip!
 

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Don't worry, just make sure it is in good shape and stick to what the factory say's about adjusting it, I take mine touring all the time, in all sorts of conditions, my hub now has 36,000 kms on it and is rock solid

 
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