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bike has ABS unfortunately, just swapped the rcs19 on and didn't disconnect any lines anywhere except the master downline. Im thinking if up pressure bleed from front calipers I can push the air (now at the banjo bolt for new master) up and out very easily. I will just use a ton of fluid since im replacing it with rbf600. Already bleed the rear using traditional press lever turn nipple approach successful.

or Do I have to take the whole damn thing apart again? not like it runs at all anyways


on another note, the oem res is in a peculiar position and I cannot figure out how to run the hose... I have tried super short, medium, and crazy long hose arrangements.... if the res tip was pointed parallel with the bike instead of perpendicular it would be a breeze.


 

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800RR 2015 ABS

The reservoir and mount came with the RCS19 I ordered as a kit with hose, bolts, clamps etc. from Carpimoto in Italy.

I know the mounting is different but these picture angles may help.

You probably know that the brake line from the master runs to the ABS module before the calipers.
I bled my system after the RCS19 install with about 1 pint of fluid and some patience.
 

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800RR 2015 ABS

The reservoir and mount came with the RCS19 I ordered as a kit with hose, bolts, clamps etc. from Carpimoto in Italy.

I know the mounting is different but these picture angles may help.

You probably know that the brake line from the master runs to the ABS module before the calipers.
I bled my system after the RCS19 install with about 1 pint of fluid and some patience.

**edit, alright I got a pre bend hose to work without kinking from the evap system of my 1190R!
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Where did you bleed from? the calipers pressure upwards? I dont want to take the bike apart to access the abs pump if possible.
 

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I bled the Master first at the bleed screw followed by the upstream (right) then the downstream (left) caliper.

Did NOT touch the ABS pump hose connections. The pump on the B3 is under the seat and would require major drip prevention and cleanup.

A little back and forth bars to calipers to get a firm lever.

Good Luck
 

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I bled the Master first at the bleed screw followed by the upstream (right) then the downstream (left) caliper.

Did NOT touch the ABS pump hose connections. The pump is under my seat and would require major drip prevention and cleanup.

A little back and forth bars to calipers to get a firm lever.

Good Luck
thank you very much, will attempt this exact order and report back!
 

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Ok man was working on my bike and i run a 19RCS also and there is no issues that i am seeing with the mounting of the RCS with the stock reservoir.
You can turn the black plastic brake fluid inlet tube on the master no problem, and hopefully before filling the reservoir just cut a 1mm at a time off the hose till you get that right curve, no kinks.
 

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Ok man was working on my bike and i run a 19RCS also and there is no issues that i am seeing with the mounting of the RCS with the stock reservoir.
You can turn the black plastic brake fluid inlet tube on the master no problem, and hopefully before filling the reservoir just cut a 1mm at a time off the hose till you get that right curve, no kinks.
there Is a zero % chance you just ran a stright hose from res to rcs19. just saying.if you did then your res is diff than mine. that said thru PM I did get a hose that was pre bent from my 1190R that worked with it. this fvckin pos doesn't run I spent all my effort getting my other bike ready for a private TD this Monday. what a fucking pos at 10mo ownership still cant ride. not very happy right now!
 

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Never say Never, Sorry... To easy, then again after having installed brembo masters on every bike i have owned in the last 15 years to include typically adding clip-ons, custom & stock reservoirs, making brackets, etc this was to easy... SORRY

Stock clip-ons, stock reservoir in stock location, Brembo 19x18/20 RCS. Like they say the proof is in the pudding.
 

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qwell kids and wealthy adults that act like kids, I got it 90% licked. doesn't feel like the the rsc19 on my new gsxr 1000. but better. bike doesn't run at all and im bothering the hell out of a member to deal with the NON EXISTENT helps from ECU STUIDO that cant make it run, so doesnt matter but I imagine after cycling the abs like 20times on a first ride then rebelled should be perfect


bike is absolutely beautiful and I want to straight up have sex with her but fuck me dead, this is absurd guys, 10+mo and cant ride this thing??????


btw new onlookers bikes has full exhaust and air filter, CERTAINLY NOT a hard to tune bike! not this bulshit Im trying to deal with!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Good to hear your making some progress.. I can agree on the master, but it seems mine is getting firmer the more time goes on.
 

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Good to hear your making some progress.. I can agree on the master, but it seems mine is getting firmer the more time goes on.
removed the zip tie from the good ol' "extend the lever all the way out then hulk the thing down super dooper tight and zip tie it for a day or more and retap the lines and calipers everywhere you can easily access it" feels pretty good, guess it cant feel as good as the gsxr because ultimately the Mis front brakes lines are at least 2-3x longer so even with same expansion rate its going to have double+ the mechanical losses.
 

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I am seriously thinking i might do the whole bleed at the pump, still not 100% satisfied with my brake feel. If the brakes were working as well as my Panigale, i would be loving them. I am not so sure the line length has much to do with anything, as long as all are steel tubing & braided line, like most bikes these days.
 

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I loved the brakes on every ducati ive had bone stock except that bullshit new monster/hypermotard/899. identical problem we have on the stock F3 nissin and what is even worse on the new gsxr.
at least it sounds like we both have another bike that runs well and we both love. still tho my patience has been tried more than I feel I deserve. especially considering this is my track bike and here we are... riding my street bike at track events


oh wait you do have abs? I thought your 800 san abs? theres no excuse than if its going straight 1ft down to the calipers to not feel amazing like my gixxer. it was 1 finger from 160-60 on Mondays trackway and HARD deceleration with my wrist and tendon issues. literally, 10lbs of fingering her and you'd go over the bars!
 

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MY F3 800 has ABS, and honestly it has the same issue most 13+ daytona 675's had with poor pressure and feel at the level & that holds the bike back IMO.. OK given i have not had it on track YET. But the continual lack of real solid pressure at the lever (which got better with the brembo RCS 19x18/20) is not giving me the warm confidence that i have with my other bikes. Inconsistent is the word i will use.

MY panigale with stock rotors, M50 calipers, SMS dual compound Pads, brembo 17x18/20 Rcs is hands down amazing for power and good feel (No ABS).. My 675R i run M50 calipers, brembo Rcs 17x18/20, galfer rotors with brembo pads, and still 1 finger braking but the feel is telepathic, hoping to get more 675R, as the chassis seems to be a little nervous on the F3. Reminds me of my 390lbs fully fueled 04 ZX-10R.
 
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