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I just talked to the ENI warehouse to confirm. On-line ordering is no longer active. The USA warehouse is being shut down.

They have a very limited supply of oil on sale.

10w60 @ $63 per case of 12L and 15w50 @ $50 per case of 12L ........

Add a bit for UPS shipping. For me it was $27.73....That works out to $7.56 per liter for the iRide 10w-60 Racing Full Synthetic !!

It's a deal !! The young lady I spoke with (Teri) was very nice in spite of the fact that she is losing her job.

Call 646-364-2100 to speak with her.

Better hurry


Thanks @Lipamax for alerting me !!
 

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Thanks for the heads up Ed! Just got mine. She said she had already taken orders from three others. She said they say they will be setting up distributorships but haven't done so yet. It would be a shame not to be able to get it here in the states any longer.
 

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I'll stick with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic $4.94 a quart including tax at Wal-Mart......and Pep Boys matches their price
and I ride past their store all the time and they have Purolator PL-14612 filters too:wink2:
 

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Not only did my case of oil arrive within 3 days...they threw some swag in the box !!!
 

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If I can tell a quick story about sourcing Agip / Eni oil for a bargain price...
I managed to pick up a 60 litre (15.8 gallon drum) Eni I-ride 10w 60 fully synthetic oil for $200 New Zealand dollars. That's $132 US dollars. $2.20 USD per litre.

So cheap I could fry my chips in it.
Nom nom nom.
 

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I managed to pick up a 60 litre (15.8 gallon drum) Eni I-ride 10w 60 fully synthetic oil for $200 New Zealand dollars. That's $132 US dollars. $2.20 USD per litre.
Don't worry Dave, I can beat your price easily.........
Just have a 55 gallon drum delivered to my door.......
1. It's just too big for my 3 car garage/shop
2. Then I'd need a pump to get the oil out of the drum, more shit to store
3. Then I'd need a container to pump the oil into, more shit to store and keep clean
4. Still need a funnel to get the oil into the motor, more shit to store and keep clean
5. Yes, I could buy a gear pump that even measures the oil, eliminating the container and funnel, still more shit
5. Bet it's fun wrestling 60 liters of oil around >:)

Me? I'll stick with the 5 quart jug and a funnel......when the motor is filled, I stick the funnel in the top of the jug, cover the
funnel with a shop towel and let drain for a few days on a shelf.......then I leave the funnel covered and hang it on the wall
The old oil and filter in the drain pan are hung for a week or so and the oil goes into an old 5 quart jug
When finished draining the old oil, filter and jug are recycled at the auto parts store, with old solvents

Even if they were giving Agip/Eni away......I'd still buy Mobil 1......
Because out on the road, 1,000mi from my shop, I can get it at any Mobil station, Wal-Mart, Costco or auto parts store
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mobile 1 syn CAR oil? it doesnt lack whatever piece that moto oil has for our wet clutches?

i was excited to get some eni.. but then shipping is HALF the cost of the product?!
ugh :(
 

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that ny number is out of service. i emailed them a while ago and terri gave me this PA number
which just worked for me

724 352 6800
 

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that ny number is out of service. i emailed them a while ago and terri gave me this PA number
which just worked for me

724 352 6800
That's correct. I used it last week. In advance of my order, I simply emailed her my shipping address. Shipping is approximately $27 and change per case.
 

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mobile 1 syn CAR oil? it doesnt lack whatever piece that moto oil has for our wet clutches?

i was excited to get some eni.. but then shipping is HALF the cost of the product?!
ugh :(
MA spec oil (motorcycle specific) has additives to help it survive in the transmission as well as the engine.....car oil doesn't. SOME (not all) car oils have additives that make the motorcycle wet clutches slip. Not Mobil1

Even with the shipping added in the Eni oil at those prices is about half what it costs at most dealers.
 

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Don't worry Dave, I can beat your price easily.........
Just have a 55 gallon drum delivered to my door.......
1. It's just too big for my 3 car garage/shop
2. Then I'd need a pump to get the oil out of the drum, more shit to store
3. Then I'd need a container to pump the oil into, more shit to store and keep clean
4. Still need a funnel to get the oil into the motor, more shit to store and keep clean
5. Yes, I could buy a gear pump that even measures the oil, eliminating the container and funnel, still more shit
5. Bet it's fun wrestling 60 liters of oil around >:)

Me? I'll stick with the 5 quart jug and a funnel......when the motor is filled, I stick the funnel in the top of the jug, cover the
funnel with a shop towel and let drain for a few days on a shelf.......then I leave the funnel covered and hang it on the wall
The old oil and filter in the drain pan are hung for a week or so and the oil goes into an old 5 quart jug
When finished draining the old oil, filter and jug are recycled at the auto parts store, with old solvents

Even if they were giving Agip/Eni away......I'd still buy Mobil 1......
Because out on the road, 1,000mi from my shop, I can get it at any Mobil station, Wal-Mart, Costco or auto parts store
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Oh, I didn't realise this was a competition.

You know, Noel, the Mobil 1 research & development team took a real hammering during the development of their fully synthetic oil. Three cone heads ended up in intensive care. Ethically, you'd be better off choosing a less aggressive lubricant.
 

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mobile 1 syn CAR oil? it doesnt lack whatever piece that moto oil has for our wet clutches?

i was excited to get some eni.. but then shipping is HALF the cost of the product?!
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They make Mobil 1 Motorcycle 20W50.

It is API SJ certified, but not JASO MA or MA2. My 990R manual lists all three standards as acceptable ratings.

I might try some...been using Motul 7100 10W60 before. Agip is hard to get here...I guess I could order some now, but not sure it is worth the shipping.
 

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They make Mobil 1 Motorcycle 20W50.

It is API SJ certified, but not JASO MA or MA2. My 990R manual lists all three standards as acceptable ratings.

I might try some...been using Motul 7100 10W60 before. Agip is hard to get here...I guess I could order some now, but not sure it is worth the shipping.
The JASO MA ratings are the ones that make it motorcycle oil. The API SJ is the automotive rating (american petroleum institute) but does not make it motorcycle oil.

They can call it motorcycle oil....but it is lacking the shear stabilizers found in the JASO MA class oils.

How much are you paying for Motul?? If it is more than $7.56 a liter than getting in on the last of the Eni oil form the current USA warehouse would be a deal.
 

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Ed is a very thoughtful being, I agree. My post was not one of contempt, but more of jocularity. Btw a friend and I bought the last 4 cases over the weekend so I'm pretty sure they're out.
 

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Ed is a very thoughtful being, I agree. My post was not one of contempt, but more of jocularity. Btw a friend and I bought the last 4 cases over the weekend so I'm pretty sure they're out.
Yup... :)
My two cases were just delivered on Monday along with a bunch of swag! Terri rocks! --so do you ED!
 

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The JASO MA ratings are the ones that make it motorcycle oil. The API SJ is the automotive rating (american petroleum institute) but does not make it motorcycle oil.

They can call it motorcycle oil....but it is lacking the shear stabilizers found in the JASO MA class oils.
The rice rocketeers came up with the JASO MA ratings in '98......it's, marketing folks......

Japan produces 4,750 barrels of oil per day......
Chevron Refinery in El Segundo REFINES 290,000 BARRELS OF OIL PER DAY......And It's over 100 years old :grin2:

Japan's total output of oil is 0.75380433% of what Los Angeles COUNTY alone produces per day

In other words they aren't a player on the World Market

If I have oil questions, I call Rob, he runs Chevron's lab:wink2:
 

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JASO MA ratings apply to oils made everywhere. Yamalube is (was) made by Chevron for the USA market for decades...to Yamaha specs. Suzuki's Ecstar oil in the USA is blended by a USA refinery to Suzuki's specifications.

The JASO MA and MA2 classification has nothing to do with marketing It indicates additive packages specifically targeting transmission gear shear resistance.

If your oil is not meeting the MA or MA2 (latest) spec then it is NOT motorcycle oil.
 

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JASO MA ratings apply to oils made everywhere. Yamalube is (was) made by Chevron for the USA market for decades...to Yamaha specs. Suzuki's Ecstar oil in the USA is blended by a USA refinery to Suzuki's specifications.
So where die the rice rocketeers GET THEIR SPECS???

Do they have their own Chemical Engineering Research Laboratories??????? DOUBT IT, HERE'S WHY

Talked to Rob today at the Chevron Refinery Trap Range, He runs the QC lab at Chevron El Segundo
Said they have ~$12,000,000 worth of equipment in the QC lab.....that's not the buildings or employees
Chevron's Chemical Engineering Research Laboratory is in Richmond CA in 8, 3 storey buildings
Same deal, just the Equipment ~$125,000,000 for the Lab

Here's what happens, the Chevron Lab develops shear resistant oil, it gets published on their site or an industry review....
Someone in the motor cycle industry spots it......."Hey, we can sell that to the public"
The Public doesn't know they need it yet......here comes marketing.....
The end result>:)>:)
Yamaha YamaLube Motorcycle oil 10w40 $34.95/gal at Wal-Mart $8.74 a quart
Even better Yamalube Full Synthetic Motorcycle oil 15w50 $17.94 a quart at Wal-Mart
And my Mobil 1 Synthetic is $22.88 GALLON at Wal-Mart :grin2::grin2:
 
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