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So it turns out the bike I'm buying is Colin's from this thread:

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40261&highlight=rox

Apparently the dyno guys fluffed his PCIII setup for his Bodis. I'll be looking for another map to be done. Any shout outs for good folk?

Looking before I asked unearthed x-bikes (too far) and PDQ1 (just far enough to be worth it) Anyone with experience with these guys with dyno+750

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A Nate used pdq when he'd had his blades engine done they ran in bike on Dyno so when he got it mapped and first ride it went pop under load so no I wouldn't go near them mate I'd suggest the guys up at Mallory race way there really good and a nice ride up there to
 

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A Nate used pdq when he'd had his blades engine done they ran in bike on Dyno so when he got it mapped and first ride it went pop under load so no I wouldn't go near them mate I'd suggest the guys up at Mallory race way there really good and a nice ride up there to

Really? I thought PDQ had a great reputation?
 

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I've used PDQ for years on all my bikes, road and race. They have a great reputation and know what they're doing.

Thoroughly recommended.
 

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A Nate used pdq when he'd had his blades engine done they ran in bike on Dyno so when he got it mapped and first ride it went pop under load so no I wouldn't go near them mate I'd suggest the guys up at Mallory race way there really good and a nice ride up there to
Loads of variables there before making a statement like yours. Did they do the engine rebuild for e.g.?

What do you think the 500kg metal wheel is that the bikes wheel turns if not a load?

Did you watch them run it in with no load? Define what you mean by no load.

Voicing opinions is fine and exactly what internet communities are for but throwaway statements like yours can have real world effects to people's business's, reputations and income with little or no redress. There is always two sides to a story and rarely do they tell the same tale.


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Where does it say no load??
 

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I've heard a few good things about PDQ. There are plenty of reasons for an engine to go pop, but I expect a dyno operator at an official Dynojet power commander tuning center, which PDQ is, will know how to use his equipment. My main concern is their experience with MV's. I was told it's tricky as there isn't too many PCIII maps for them to base on. I may well be wrong.

Just a thought, but as the bike will be under unusual *ahem* pressures it'll probably be worth me having it serviced before hand, especially as it's not been ridden much, so as not to exacerbate any possible issues.
 

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I've heard a few good things about PDQ. There are plenty of reasons for an engine to go pop, but I expect a dyno operator at an official Dynojet power commander tuning center, which PDQ is, will know how to use his equipment. My main concern is their experience with MV's. I was told it's tricky as there isn't too many PCIII maps for them to base on. I may well be wrong.

Just a thought, but as the bike will be under unusual *ahem* pressures it'll probably be worth me having it serviced before hand, especially as it's not been ridden much, so as not to exacerbate any possible issues.

To be honest when it comes to something like a PCIII for a dyno centre that knows what they're doing starting with a page of zero's is not really brain scratching work.

as much as i don't want to talk myself out of work i've known Nick the dyno operator at PDQ for a very long time and he is far from clueless on a dyno. I've had a dyno 14 years, i bought mine from them brand new when they were the dynojet distributor to the UK and i think he had racked up a decade or more experience by then anyway hence why i questioned the comment of engine popping.

I think PDQ have done some MV stuff but there isn't really any specialist knowledge involved when it comes to a PCIII and MV.

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Where does it say no load??
Highlighted in bold for you :) If it went pop first ride under load then it must have been mapped with no load otherwise it survived a mapping session of a few hours and then coincidentally went pop first time it was ridden which could have happened for any number of reasons entirely unrelated to the dyno or mapping.

A Nate used pdq when he'd had his blades engine done they ran in bike on Dyno so when he got it mapped and first ride it went pop under load so no I wouldn't go near them mate I'd suggest the guys up at Mallory race way there really good and a nice ride up there to
 

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Loads of variables there before making a statement like yours. Did they do the engine rebuild for e.g.?

What do you think the 500kg metal wheel is that the bikes wheel turns if not a load?

Did you watch them run it in with no load? Define what you mean by no load.

Voicing opinions is fine and exactly what internet communities are for but throwaway statements like yours can have real world effects to people's business's, reputations and income with little or no redress. There is always two sides to a story and rarely do they tell the same tale.




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Ok handbags back in pram Chris lol we saw the bike on the Dyno in gear and a throttle stop on so was running at what ever revs they set it we sat there in a car for approximately 2 hours up Road watching it run guy came out refueled it and started it again upon seeing this we walked in and asked about it where the guy said oh yeah they just finishing remap mmmmmmm really

When I say under load I mean riding with rider on bike not just rolling a roller no weight on the bike

No they didn't do the build as I was done by the Eddie stowbart bsb team and they ran engine on a test bench ect as u well know they would do
 

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Everyone can make a comment or have an opinion from experiences they have had this was a mates experience and I am barely giving an opinion on it no more when a question like anyone used PDQ is throw out there

Just like we could say what way around does a Mv 1078 rr clutch go in and why can't N be found when bike is hot

SO YES AS A ADULT EVERYONE HAS THERE OPINION AND EXPERIENCES AND WE CAN ONLY ASK TAKE OR IGNOR THEM NO MORE WITHOUT ASKING Qs HE MAY ASWELL CALL PDQ AND SAY "hi mate are u any good at Dyno work " I wonder what Larry would say " oh yes sir we are very good the best around come down "


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Ok handbags back in pram Chris lol we saw the bike on the Dyno in gear and a throttle stop on so was running at what ever revs they set it we sat there in a car for approximately 2 hours up Road watching it run guy came out refueled it and started it again upon seeing this we walked in and asked about it where the guy said oh yeah they just finishing remap mmmmmmm really
My toys are quite firmly in my pram. but my poiont is what to you looks like someone telling you a lie looks to me like someone possibly using the dynojet tuning link to create maps or using a throttle lock to replicate exact throittle positions to map them accurately. Like i said there are always two sides to a story, you're adding further details here which add to what you've said. All i was doing was playing devils advocate to another dyno shop.

When I say under load I mean riding with rider on bike not just rolling a roller no weight on the bike
The roller weighs 500kgs, it creates it's own load, plus if they are using tuning link they'll be using the eddie current load cell which does provide load with a big fuck off massive elctro magnet, enough to stop a bike at 200mph in around 4 seconds or less. The rider is irrespective to the equation. Load refers to the load placed on the engine and unless the rider weighed in at around 25 + stone it will play a minor part in mappping requirements.

No they didn't do the build as I was done by the Eddie stowbart bsb team and they ran engine on a test bench ect as u well know they would do
So the dyno get the blame and not the engine builder. Why? What happened on the dyno that meant it caused the engine to pop when it was used on the road, did it have a stock ECU or HRC one with PCIII etc? Blame who you like, i'm simply asking for a balance of facts.

Everyone can make a comment or have an opinion from experiences they have had this was a mates experience and I am barely giving an opinion on it no more when a question like anyone used PDQ is throw out there
Of course people can voice opinions, but this is a persons business and reputation at play. Balance is only fair. you gave a very nagative second hand opinion of something that didn't even happen to you personally. I've tried to fill in blanks and clarify details so that people can then make up their own mind that's all. I've got no interest in whether PDQ prosper or fail as a business to be honest.


Just like we could say what way around does a Mv 1078 rr clutch go in and why can't N be found when bike is hot
Not finding N down to a dragging clutch, also caused by the centre nut applying too much pressure when torqued and gripping the outer basket. central hub wearing out and roller ramps of the slipper also wearing. I see no other reason for this comment other than to either anger me or act as a threat, neither of which i really understand to be honest but anyway as i've said there are always two sides to a story.

SO YES AS A ADULT EVERYONE HAS THERE OPINION AND EXPERIENCES AND WE CAN ONLY ASK TAKE OR IGNOR THEM NO MORE WITHOUT ASKING Qs HE MAY ASWELL CALL PDQ AND SAY "hi mate are u any good at Dyno work " I wonder what Larry would say " oh yes sir we are very good the best around come down "


Enough said
You told me to put my toys back in my pram but it's you exerting the agressive posting style, CAPS TYPING, veiled threats and "enough said" statements.

I have no idea what PDQ would say if they were called, i'm nothing to do with them. All i'm asking is responsibility for statements, yes we're adults, yes we all have experiences and opinions that can be shared or useful to others and i'm all for that but with that must come some sort of respnsibility for the effect those comments might have on others and their livlihood. Is that an out of order expectation of adults?

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Well let's agree to disagree I was mearly giving my OPINION no more

In relashion to 1078 clutch nothing was dragging and numerous MV techs tried to solve it including Russ at Bennett's and he found was incorrectly fitted I fact was back to front but I'm not getting into that

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You know, i was coming back to remove my comments because it just isn't worth another argument. I made a mistake in replying as i did, genuinly i was trying to be devils advocate but i just don't have the energy anymore to fight or argue.

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Mate I can appreciate being devils advocate I was just giving my opinion in the beginning no more
 

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I had my 2013 1090RR mapped at PDQ last year after another company had mapped it so it drank like a fish and ran like a pig.

Nick fixed the hunting problem (removed O2 optimizer from PCV) and remapped the bike. It improved my MPG from 20 to 30 around town and from 30 to 40 on the motorway (I've kept a record of that using the 'Road Trip' app on my phone since the bike was new so I can back that up).

It rides so much better and I'm going back to add another map for running with no baffles.

PDQ - Highly Recommended
 
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