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Well it's finally happened. I noticed the left side of the tank is much closer to the steering damper then the right side. When I went to my dealer I was told it was not covered under warranty unless it was leaking.

Does anyone know if this is true or not? It seems to be defective to me and should be covered under warranty.
 

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Called MV Agusta USA and the gentlemen I spoke with was very receptive to my issues. He took all my information down and passed it along to warranty support. He said that the dealership should have never told me it wasn't covered under warranty and I should hear back from MV by Wednesday of this week.

Do you see that? It's my shit eating grin and my faith being restored in MV.
 

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I have to check my tank tomorrow!
 

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Since you've obviously been using ethanol based fuel, have you been using any form of treatment with it ?
Is there any non ethanol fuel around these days? Lowest I saw was 5% here in NZ. There is Ron 91 but the quality is crap usually and ends up pinging in cars and some bikes I had. haven't tried it with MV
 

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Is there any non ethanol fuel around these days? Lowest I saw was 5% here in NZ. There is Ron 91 but the quality is crap usually and ends up pinging in cars and some bikes I had. haven't tried it with MV
I don't know about NZ mate, but we can still quit easily get Ethanol free over here in Aus, although they're slipping it in at an alarming rate and quit illegally not telling the general public.

The point I was trying to make is more along the lines of E10 having being around in the USA for a long time (thanks for that :thewife:) and the problems have all sort of preventative solutions, people just need to have a look around.

The other option would be to find out if the said bike has the same solution as other bikes here on the forum has had, like a new updated tank which is supposedly resistant to the Ethanol problem, said tank can be identified by a identification "dot" under the seat.
 

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Since you've obviously been using ethanol based fuel, have you been using any form of treatment with it ?
I don't know about NZ mate, but we can still quit easily get Ethanol free over here in Aus, although they're slipping it in at an alarming rate and quit illegally not telling the general public.

The point I was trying to make is more along the lines of E10 having being around in the USA for a long time (thanks for that :thewife:) and the problems have all sort of preventative solutions, people just need to have a look around.

The other option would be to find out if the said bike has the same solution as other bikes here on the forum has had, like a new updated tank which is supposedly resistant to the Ethanol problem, said tank can be identified by a identification "dot" under the seat.
Hi Donsy - Sadly I don't have any choice in fuel out here in the great nanny state of California. There are no non ethanol fueling stations in CA. If memory serves me correct, I do have a grey dot on my tank under the seat.

Does a product exist that can stop the ethanol from destroying tanks? If so, why hasn't MV Agusta made it mandatory on any bikes sold in the USA? You would think that is borderline willful ignorance on their part.
 

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The new tanks should not be affected. All the Italian brands seem to have had this problem. The plastic chosen by Acerbis (primary supplier to many manufacturers) was not up to the task and has been replaced.

You can seal the tank for added protection (I use KBS sealers)...but my old 2008 Brutale has a plastic tank and has never had a problem with E10 gas....but i still go for E0 whenever possible.

I am seeing more and more stations with E0 pumps available (although usually only 87 R+M/2).
I think the gas stations are getting wise to the public's demands.....usually costs about $0.20 more per gallon though. The Shell station just up the road from me has 90 octane E0 !!!

Look here: http://www.pure-gas.org/
 

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E0 gas stations

Here's a map of the USA and Canada with blue pins for E0 gas stations. Hawaii also has some E0 stations, and Alaska does not get any ethanol gas...at all !! :yo:

Anyway, there are some in California.
 

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Ok Atom, you didn't mention the tank "dot" in your opening statement, that's a fairly big omission, so now I'm even more curious.

I hear what you say about MV being arrogant towards USA (it's not them only) customers by selling the bikes without a warning, and I clearly remember someone posting a picture of his bike having a sticker on the tank where it's advised to not use Ethanol fuel, it might have been in a manual too, but that's besides the point.
I am glad they are supplying new tanks though.:)

Now just because I'm terrible curious and always very pro-active around my bikes, cars and woman, but if you knew the fuel in the USA might be a problem for your tank, and not even mentioning other parts of the fuel system, why have you not tried taking steps to prevent this, maybe using fuel stabilisers or leaving less fuel in the bike etc.
I know of a few guys who get the non Ethanol fuel delivered to their houses in a big bad drum, so only occasionally have to top up with E10 etc.

It amazes me at how many guys come on here, and other forums I peak into, and are totally amazed to find out that their Countries are switching to this shit (UK members are terrible for this), and the affects in can have on your motor vehicles, are people really that un-informed and ignorant, or is it also just arrogance. :ahhh:

I imagine my poor fellow Aussies (some at least) will take another 5 years to realise what shit they've been putting into their vehicles and then start blaming the manufacturers, probably be the same people who agreed for the stuff to be used in the 1st place.

Please don't think of me being pissy, this stuff really get's me angry and I'm always very curious about possible solutions rather than just complaining.
 

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If you look at the tank warning sticker that came on your bike, it says to use non-ethanol fuel only.
Here, in Massachusetts, USA, it is not possible to use non-ethanol fuel.
Use a fuel ethanol stabilizer such as Star-Tron or Stabil Marine Ethanol Treatment and it will minimize the problem.

I did think the Grey Dot tanks were not susceptible....

I am currently testing a theory put out by some of the good folks at a Ducati Shop...drain the tank and put it in the sun for a bit. It should return to normal dimensions.
 

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Dons, I think you're being pissy.

How is it the customers fault?

How are people supposed to know there is ethanol in fuel, and how are they supposed to know it's bad for their bike?

It's easy when you've got 20k posts on a specialist forum but how is a normal person supposed to know they have to Google "What is ethanol and is it bad for my bike?

I think someone might be uninformed, ignorant and arrogant, and I think it might be you.

You're a very helpful person, no need to be a jerk too. ☺
 

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Dons, I think you're being pissy.

How is it the customers fault?

How are people supposed to know there is ethanol in fuel, and how are they supposed to know it's bad for their bike?

It's easy when you've got 20k posts on a specialist forum but how is a normal person supposed to know they have to Google "What is ethanol and is it bad for my bike?

I think someone might be uninformed, ignorant and arrogant, and I think it might be you.

You're a very helpful person, no need to be a jerk too. ☺
Not once did I say it was the consumers fault, get over yourself man, and YOU call me a jerk :stickpoke wtf.

I knew about Ethanol long before I joined any forum, read the newspaper, listen to the news :thewife:
Everybody needs to be spoon fed these days, I'm pretty sure Atom is not one of those.

Is it because I mentioned Australians, did I hit a nerve, grow a set man. :jerkoff::)

Maybe hang around a bit longer before you also become another moan at friggin everything member, it's got nothing to do with the amount of post's, but it does too.:loser:
Oh wait, I forgot the emoticon :)
 

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^^^Steven, one only has to read the material supplied with the bike purchased to know that ethanol fuel is not to be used.

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If people would spend the time to familiarize themselves with the machine, there would be less "pissy-ness".
 

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^^^Steven, one only has to read the material supplied with the bike purchased to know that ethanol fuel is not to be used.

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If people would spend the time to familiarize themselves with the machine, there would be less "pissy-ness".
Sure let me just go return my bike because it says in the manual, that was given to me after purchase, not to use ethanol fuel. It just doesn't work that way.

If I took that theory into my IT career, I'd be out of the job.
 

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Ok Atom, you didn't mention the tank "dot" in your opening statement, that's a fairly big omission, so now I'm even more curious.

I hear what you say about MV being arrogant towards USA (it's not them only) customers by selling the bikes without a warning, and I clearly remember someone posting a picture of his bike having a sticker on the tank where it's advised to not use Ethanol fuel, it might have been in a manual too, but that's besides the point.
I am glad they are supplying new tanks though.:)

Now just because I'm terrible curious and always very pro-active around my bikes, cars and woman, but if you knew the fuel in the USA might be a problem for your tank, and not even mentioning other parts of the fuel system, why have you not tried taking steps to prevent this, maybe using fuel stabilisers or leaving less fuel in the bike etc.
I know of a few guys who get the non Ethanol fuel delivered to their houses in a big bad drum, so only occasionally have to top up with E10 etc.

It amazes me at how many guys come on here, and other forums I peak into, and are totally amazed to find out that their Countries are switching to this shit (UK members are terrible for this), and the affects in can have on your motor vehicles, are people really that un-informed and ignorant, or is it also just arrogance. :ahhh:

I imagine my poor fellow Aussies (some at least) will take another 5 years to realise what shit they've been putting into their vehicles and then start blaming the manufacturers, probably be the same people who agreed for the stuff to be used in the 1st place.

Please don't think of me being pissy, this stuff really get's me angry and I'm always very curious about possible solutions rather than just complaining.
Donsy I'm not trying to argue here but you're being thick headed. Not everyone knows about cars/motorcycles like you do. What happens when I do take steps to lessen this issue but it still occurs? I totally blame the manufacturer for this.
 

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Sure let me just go return my bike because it says in the manual, that was given to me after purchase, not to use ethanol fuel. It just doesn't work that way.

If I took that theory into my IT career, I'd be out of the job.
What about the sticker on the tank.....???:stickpoke:blah:

I assume you do read for your IT carreer.

The ethanol issue is a cunundrum that will likely not go away.. Strong lobbies and faulty science...corn is for food and specialty uses. The corn lobby should feed the world and leave fueling things to dead dinosaurs.
 

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Fuck them

To import a vehicle into the US it must comply with DOT regulations and be

COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE US ie Ethanol.......

Importing vehicles into the US that comply with DOT safety regulations is one thing

Importing vehicles that are not compatible with US CONDITIONS shows intent to

DEFRAUD US buyers.......

Aprilia, Ducati and MV all sent KNOWINGLY DEFECTIVE TANKS to the US

THIS IS A CRIMINAL ACT

Did I miss anything??..


TYPICAL DAGO ASSHOLES
 
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