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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MV-A...les&hash=item1e7f3956d9&vxp=mtr#ht_521wt_1167

Very nice looking Disco Volante in southern California. Surprised no one here has mentioned it. :stickpoke

I have no connection to this machine. Just sharing the link. Lots more photos on the ebay listing.

I've met the seller many times and bought parts from him. Seen the bike a couple times but never been able to note the frame number. For future reference, as of today it is bid up to $15.2k, and has met reserve.
 

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Once I become independently wealthy (probably in my next life) I will buy something like this.....meanwhile, I just drool and dream.
 

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A lovely bike and a very good buy for some lucky purchaser - Congratulations to the him or her :)

A 175 CS (call it Disco Volante or Discette without starting any arguments) is the missing piece in the jigsaw of my collection & NO I wasn't the buyer if anyone was wondering :laughing:
 

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Very attractive machine.
For future reference - Sold at USD $16,100.00
 

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I would say that is a reasonable price for an authentic Disco, am I right?
Do a search for 2013 Las Vegas auction results. Prices on good looking Disco Volantes are almost double from just a few years ago.
 

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I'm surprised this thread hasn't started debating this 175 CS authenticity? Many of you here have quite strongly previously stated that a 175 CS with a Disco tank was never made after 1954. This bike was sold as a '55. :confused:
 

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I'm surprised this thread hasn't started debating this 175 CS authenticity? Many of you here have quite strongly previously stated that a 175 CS with a Disco tank was never made after 1954. This bike was sold as a '55. :confused:
Are you referring to this thread? http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54076&page=2

My opinion is in there somewhere IIRC that Disco tanks were not shown in MV literature published after 1954. Make of that what you will. Not sure what others said.

Sadly my caution and skepticism of accepted Disco lore has caused some here hurt feelings, even tho I was just trying to be helpful and share knowledge. :banghead: So excuse me for not rushing in...

There's advice enough already on this forum to help buyers evaluate a Disco MV... just use the search bar, type in "Disco" and read up! Then if you have questions, maybe you can get them answered on this forum. (If an owner PM's me their MV 175 numbers and good photos, I'll be helpful if I can) Just don't shoot the messenger! :)
 

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Yes Ivan, exactly the thread I'm talking about ....

A few statements like:

-"I believe only 500 CSS's were ever produced, and a small number of CS's with telescopic forks were produced along side those in 1954 only (with the Disco tank). In 1955 the tank design changed and was never reproduced by the factory".

-"99% of the documentation out there states the Disco Volante Steel tank was only produced in 1954".

-"IMHO the only genuine "Disco Volante" will be a 1954 175 MV Modello Sport or Super Sport. Personally I have found no proof that the Disco tank form was fitted by the factory after 1954".

Then again, other people in other threads state differently. I for one can't believe that there is not some sort of authority on these to set the record straight (from the factory perhaps). It's all just 'from my research' and advertising photos .... seems all too mysterious compared to anything else in the vintage transportation arena.

Oh well, in the meantime I'm still searching for the 'correct' tank for my bike as I would never want to pass something off for something it's not!
 

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It's all just 'from my research' and advertising photos .... seems all too mysterious compared to anything else in the vintage transportation arena.
Sorry but if I wrote "'from my research' and advertising photos" it was intended to provide a general basis for my opinion, not to be mysterious. I've shared what I know, you can take it or leave it. I don't have a degree in MV History or anything...

Some good MV 175 promo photos here:
http://www.mvagusta.it/it/moto-storiche/moto-da-strada

And if you do find an expert in Italy, or even a "Disco's For Dummies" book, I'm all ears. But don't forget, Italy's where the phrase Caveat Emptor came from.

http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2012/thoughts-on-a-500000-replica/

http://www.angieslist.com/articles/how-spot-classic-car-clone.htm

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/2004-09-15-fake-muscle-cars_x.htm

http://www.hagerty.com/classic-car-...News/All-Articles/2013/04/17/Famous-fake-cars

http://tinyurl.com/jwrdt3t

http://motorivista.com/replica-ducati-750-ss/

http://mycarquest.com/2013/05/are-fake-cars-a-big-problem-in-the-classic-car-world.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100564945
 

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Sorry but if I wrote "'from my research' and advertising photos" it was intended to provide a general basis for my opinion, not to be mysterious. I've shared what I know, you can take it or leave it. I don't have a degree in MV History or anything...

Some good MV 175 promo photos here:
http://www.mvagusta.it/it/moto-storiche/moto-da-strada

And if you do find an expert in Italy, or even a "Disco's For Dummies" book, I'm all ears. But don't forget, Italy's where the phrase Caveat Emptor came from.
Hi Ivan,

Please don't misunderstand me, I believe your intentions are great and I, and others I'm sure, appreciate your efforts. My point and frustration was not aimed at you ..... but at the fact that I can't believe there is not an authority on MV Agusta's. You are right many replicas and fake cars/bikes out there, but there is a way to prove or disprove those by documents and facts usually coming directly from the manufacture.
 

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I saw the bike on Ebay also. It looked like it had a 47XXXX engine serial number, and the engine covers had 'AGUSTA' incised instead of raised- made me suspect it was a bike assembled from parts from more than 1 motorcycle- nothing really wrong with that, but I also expected that someone would be willing to pay a 'collector quality' price for a bike that was nice but not worth a top price.
The seller did list his phone number, and I doubt if he would have tried to misrepresent the motorcycle- I just thought I'd be better off spending more and getting a more original bike- if I had thought it was the bike for me I would have called to get the engine and frame numbers, what the owner knew of it's history, etc.
I don't think I'd spend this much money on an Ebay auction- I'd like to see the bike in person- it's too easy to miss things with only a few pictures.
Until the current management of MV makes their records and knowledge easily available, old photos are about the best reference I know of- I've learned a lot from reading posts on this forum.
Rick
 

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...a way to prove or disprove those by documents and facts usually coming directly from the manufacture.
For old MV 175 models, promo photos, brochures, period ads and period articles are as close to "directly from the manufacturer" as you are likely to get.

These bikes are now +/- 60 years old. Factories close, people die, memories fade, ledgers are lost. The new MV company is related to the old Cascina Costa company only in name. There's no magical book out there yet.

Little MV's are rare in the US. Seeking more info I started "Motoleggera MV" on Yahoo groups long ago, we are now up to 63 members. Traffic has always been slow, but there's no drama either. The group has provided a way to see a variety of machines, exchange ideas, source parts, and learn things that might be lost otherwise. I've now owned 5 of these bikes (passing 3 along to friends), seen dozens more, had my hands inside several MV 175 motors, and even traveled to Italy to study them. But the best part is I've made some great friendships with other curious minds who just want to keep their little old MV's on the road and learn all they can about them. And I have to say that part sure beats reading a book about it.:)
 
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