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Euro2 bikes do not have an o2 sensor in the exhaust and have separate headers and catalytic converter (just need a mid-pipe to remove).
Euro3 have one piece welded headers and catalytic converter.

The Microtec 232 replaces the 16M Marelli ECU. Works really great and has capability for 2 maps, switch on the fly.

The 226 replacement for the Marelli 5SM can have 2 maps, but I do not think they can be switched on the fly. I could be wrong abut that.

I have no familiarity with the newer systems (Eldor).
Thank you for that. Pardon my ignorance, what is Eldor, is that the brand of ECU the Gen 2’s come with?

226 can have 2 maps but can't be changed on the fly.

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Deano
Thank you also. How is the map switched? Is it using the start button or similar at startup to toggle
the maps? I saw someone say (though this could be for a later one) that map one tacho sweeps to 4k rpm and map 2 8k rpm at initialisation so you know which map it is in??!

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Hi, thanks for the info, I mean switchable mapping, on the fly through a switch as it were. Ie the ecu could

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Daly I can't comment on what the M226 can do as I've never had one. Perhaps contact the Microtec guys. They do respond in ......2-7 days :grin2: and are super helpful.



Thank you for that. Pardon my ignorance, what is Eldor, is that the brand of ECU the Gen 2’s come with?

There are 2 versions of the Gen 2. The earlier/first from 2010-2012 came with a magnetti mareli 7SM. The Eldor is the ECU that came on 2013+ F4.



As far as I am aware Microtec only made ECU's to replace the Magnetti. There isn't a Microtec to replace the Eldor ECU, though I may be mistaken.
 

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Tech said they need they physical small Base CD Rom that comes with the Microtech ecu Chris sends the info via email tech cant transfer ,,, Chris please send Base CD ROM If you Cant fix problem tech is having . I WILL GLADLY PAY I am going into surgery but will email tomorrow talk to motorcycle mall . I hope this is fixed by now
 

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The only way I know how to switch maps is using the Mon266MV program on my laptop. If you have a map loaded into mapping 2 then a dialogue box that comes up asking whether to load from mapping 1 or 2 from memory. Not too sure what the point of having 2 maps is when it's just as easy to load from whatever folder you've saved maps to. There is no way I know to instant swap without extracting the map first (Rx button on program) from mapping 2 and reloading to mapping 1. The only thing I can think of is that it's there for easy reference. No expert on the program mind you although I can tune maps to suit my bike.

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That is correct Deano.... on the 226 you have to connect the software... and I don't see the value either. But then, I have no need to change mapping. I'm an old school guy. Modern electronics are a hassle for me.
Maybe we don't know everything??

The 232 I have on my F4 750 can change maps on the fly (if you have them stored), and a few other tricks the 226 doesn't do (launch control and pit lane speed, etc), IF you program them in and provide a switch.
I don't use those functions.

The 2011 Brutale 1099R I worked on recently had a 5SM ECU.... not sure what bikes got the 7SM, or what Microtec works with it.
 

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Called motorcycle mall, Chris has not responded to phone calls or emails. So. motorcycle mall is sending Microtec unit back to micro tec to get new unit . I hope this is mistake in message if the Base CD Rom would have been sent like requested in the first place . The tech would have known what to do and I would have been riding bike weeks ago . I was told it came with base CD rom
 

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That is correct Deano.... on the 226 you have to connect the software... and I don't see the value either. But then, I have no need to change mapping. I'm an old school guy. Modern electronics are a hassle for me.
Maybe we don't know everything??

The 232 I have on my F4 750 can change maps on the fly (if you have them stored), and a few other tricks the 226 doesn't do (launch control and pit lane speed, etc), IF you program them in and provide a switch.
I don't use those functions.

The 2011 Brutale 1099R I worked on recently had a 5SM ECU.... not sure what bikes got the 7SM, or what Microtec works with it.
Not true, see pdf in the previous post, all there in m226
 

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http://www.microtec.cc/en/standard-production/motor-sport/m226-m227/

PRODUCTS
M226 / M227
ECU
Injection and ignition control unit, plug and play, specially designed to be used on models:
7SM - MV F4 (from MY10) MV F4 (from MY10) - [M227]
5SM - MV F4 (MY09), BRUTALE and DESMO 16RR -[M226]
in place of the original unit; implements all the functionality and all the safeties of the original unit, It's supplied with preloaded original map, completely customizable
 

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why not? it is just a switch between wires pin 5, which can be flipped when running. Loading maps into ecu is a different issue
Awesome info, thank you :) Is the Aux CN6 connector the same connector used to upload maps (the block in between the two main loom connectors (V and E)? Does pin 5 purely hook up to a switch which then goes to ground to activate map switch?

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The only obvious thing that is different in terms of functionality on the Microtec is that you don't need to pull the clutch in in order to start the engine.

This is for all my anorak friends.

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why not? it is just a switch between wires pin 5, which can be flipped when running. Loading maps into ecu is a different issue
Had not seen the pin-out chart before..... so there you have it. Just need another switch and wire into the comm cable connector.
 

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Soooo....DucShop here in Marietta GA is the US distributor !!! Good to know. Think I will go chat with Mark.
 

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why not? it is just a switch between wires pin 5, which can be flipped when running. Loading maps into ecu is a different issue

Like Ed, I'm old school. Once I have a map that works well why do I need to change it? Modern electronics are great but I'm a mechanical man and not electronically inclined. What point on my 1078 anyway, there is no traction control etc. to soften a map for rain, sport etc.? Running as good as I can get it only requires one map and I have a map I'm happy with for both exhausts I run.


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For me it would be a case of one for road and one for full race pipes, to save having to switch ecu’s or upload a different map to get the best out of each. It’s not at all necessary, but if the functions there I think I’d be inclined to make the most of it :)

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Like Ed, I'm old school. Once I have a map that works well why do I need to change it? Modern electronics are great but I'm a mechanical man and not electronically inclined. What point on my 1078 anyway, there is no traction control etc. to soften a map for rain, sport etc.? Running as good as I can get it only requires one map and I have a map I'm happy with for both exhausts I run.


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Deano
That you decide not needing it is something different than telling the functionality is not there.
 

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I said I was not aware that it was possible. You are obviously more tech savvy than me. Also in all the software and manuals that came with mine nowhere does it mention how to adapt it to change maps on the fly let alone anything about what pin in a five pin plug does. Maybe I missed something but it didn't seem to mentioin this functionality anywhere.

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Well Motorcycle Mall is now sending the Micro tec ECU back to Chris to remap . BUT the Map on the ECU is Chrises as he is sent it pre loaded . Eurosports only installed it and gave to me but they had the same problem Motorcycle mall did and that is the bike stopped running . SO ,looks like the ECU was bad from New . Now we will have to see if Micro tec backs there product.
 
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