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I have read this entire thread 3 times and i am defiantly ordering one !
My 2013 F4RR has had first original TCC replaced at 13,000km to the new style black ones , I am now at 29,000km on bike and for the last 10,oookm i have been hearing a chain slap or rattle on decell sounds like a rattle snake only for a second if you get back on the power it will never happen ,
bike runs perfectly bu at this time she is opened up for valve adjustment , so to try and remedy this chain noise i am hearing i will do all pre measurements, up down chain deflection with current TCC in place .
one valves are adjusted i will install new adjustable TCC and tighten until up down deflection between the cam gears is minimal , but not tight ! I will rotate motor and inspect chain a few times at different areas of timing to see if the chain stays the same .
I really hope this helps the rattle snake noise will be gone !
Also i will be modifying the end of the TCC so its adjustable with a wrench instead of a screwdriver ( the rad is in the way ) this is a super tight spot !

Now with all this said i am looking for a replacement timing chain as my bike has 29,000km and its open heart surgery time right now LOL can someone point me in a direction for a good aftermarket timing chain

will try to post pics in a few days of the process
 

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I have read this entire thread 3 times and i am defiantly ordering one !
My 2013 F4RR has had first original TCC replaced at 13,000km to the new style black ones , I am now at 29,000km on bike and for the last 10,oookm i have been hearing a chain slap or rattle on decell sounds like a rattle snake only for a second if you get back on the power it will never happen ,
bike runs perfectly bu at this time she is opened up for valve adjustment , so to try and remedy this chain noise i am hearing i will do all pre measurements, up down chain deflection with current TCC in place .
one valves are adjusted i will install new adjustable TCC and tighten until up down deflection between the cam gears is minimal , but not tight ! I will rotate motor and inspect chain a few times at different areas of timing to see if the chain stays the same .
I really hope this helps the rattle snake noise will be gone !
Also i will be modifying the end of the TCC so its adjustable with a wrench instead of a screwdriver ( the rad is in the way ) this is a super tight spot !

Now with all this said i am looking for a replacement timing chain as my bike has 29,000km and its open heart surgery time right now LOL can someone point me in a direction for a good aftermarket timing chain

will try to post pics in a few days of the process
I still remember the day I installed this unit. The bike was transformed from a diesel to a jet turbine. It was that quiet. My R1M is louder and it's new. No comparison. You'll love it.
 

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I still remember the day I installed this unit. The bike was transformed from a diesel to a jet turbine. It was that quiet. My R1M is louder and it's new. No comparison. You'll love it.

hey SWISSIN i see your from Ottawa area i am in Toronto ! maybe we can chat through text bounce some ideas , my bike is up a Dukes Of Cycle here in Toronto Carmine is working on it , I know him well so he lets me stick my nose in there and tripple check things LOL


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I still remember the day I installed this unit. The bike was transformed from a diesel to a jet turbine. It was that quiet. My R1M is louder and it's new. No comparison. You'll love it.
Would you recommend a new timing chain at 29,000km I have ordered one so i am thinking while motor is opened up i should get this done ?
looking forward to my bike sounding healthy LOL ,
 

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I bet your cam chain is almost like new, its the tensioner that causes trouble. Or rather the lack of constant tension with the stock tensioner.

With the manual CCT, your bike will run like a complitely different bike, on the old cam chain!

Why you opening the motor?
 

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I bet your cam chain is almost like new, its the tensioner that causes trouble. Or rather the lack of constant tension with the stock tensioner.

With the manual CCT, your bike will run like a complitely different bike, on the old cam chain!

Why you opening the motor?

i have the valves being done so motor is open right now well valve cover is off !
 

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Can't hurt. But not sure its completely necessary.

It could hurt....if the person doing the chain doesn't follow protocol!
 

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Got motor valve cover off and under close inspection there is a tiny bit of slack in the timing chain with original TCC in place working properly , I am no expert here but I am leaning towards the conclusion that the stock TCC does not put enough pressure on the timing chain guides which in turn causes a bit of slack and the noises we are hearing !
at 17,000km i even took it upon my self to install stock (BLACK) TCC in my bike and once TCC had pushed to its desired location , i made a small rod or a drift pin to carefully advance the TCC one tooth more , then i installed a small ball bearing on the back side of the spring that is loaded into the TCC , I did this to add a bit more PUSH or pressure resistance on the chain , i also made the rod that goes into the TCC almost exactly the length of the void inside the TCC to insure that the TCC could never back out as some have experienced.

I will be getting the manual TCC and see if this helps most have said it will , i will also be installing it with a new timing chain , I will be rotating the motor once installed and be checking chain at several different timing locations to see if there is any difference in tension ,

will post pics soon
 

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First thing to do now is to do nothing!

You need the slack in the chain, if you tighten it away, it will snap 100%. It will have approx 1,5 mm of play between the cam gears when normal tightness.

DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN IT!
It should only move a few mm when actually forcing it with your fingers. I hope that's what you meant. There should be absolutely 0 slack while it's just sitting there. Should be taught.
 

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Thats what i meant. I wrote about that on my thread earlier, on 750/910 hybrid thread. I used spring scale when i pulled between the cam gears, if i remember correct it was 5kg and 1.5mm.
 

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Does anybody know where to source the Tokyomods tensioner in Europe? I can't find it anywhere and at worldwide shipping US shops it has been out of stock for months. And vivid racing does not reply to my (multiple) shipping quote request(s).
 
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