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Could they please also apply this to cars? I'm talking about all those 4-cylinder imports* with the ridiculous whale-tales, gumball stickers, and star trek style dash boards, that couldn't exceed 110mph unless they were dropped out of a plane.

* Does not apply to Porsche

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Motorcyclists who swap their bikes' stock exhaust systems for so-called loud pipes may be more likely to get a traffic ticket under a California bill that passed the Senate on Monday. SB 435, also known as the Motorcycle Anti-Tampering Act, gives law enforcement officials the ability to cite noise pollution violations under the California Vehicle Code, reinforcing a 27-year-old federal regulation that is rarely enforced.
Under the proposed law, motorcyclists pulled over for other traffic violations could also be cited for illegally noisy exhaust pipes and fined $50 to $100 for a first violation -- a fix-it ticket that could be dismissed with a proof of correction. Subsequent offenses would result in fines of $100 to $250. The bill, which has also passed the Assembly, is headed for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to sign. It would apply to motorcycles and after-market parts from the 2013 model year forward.
"The noise pollution caused by illegally modified motorcycle exhaust systems is a major quality of life issue across the state," SB 435's author, Sen. Fran Pavely (D-Santa Monica), said in a news release issued Monday. "Basic common sense and decency dictates that when a motorcycle drives by and sets off every car alarm on the street, that is too loud.
The Motorcycle Industry Council, the Irvine-based trade association that represents motorcycle manufacturers and parts suppliers, opposes SB 435.
"It is not a practical solution to address excessive motorcycle noise," said MIC vice president, Pamela Arnette. Instead, Arnette said, the council recommends the J2825 standard developed by the Society of Automotive Engineers "as a fair, practical and economical enforcement tool." J2825 is a stationary sound test and specifies the type of sound meter to be used. [Updated 9-1-10, 9:45 a.m.: a previous version of this post did not include comment from the Motorcycle Industry Council.]
According to Senator Pavley, "Many of the modifications which are aimed at making a bike louder -- for example removing the catalytic converter -- also make the bike exponentially more polluting. This has direct, measurable and negative impacts on public health."

SB 435 is a watered-down version of a bill first introduced in the senate in February 2009. The earlier version of SB 435, which had also targeted illegally modified motorcycle exhaust systems but for emissions violations and would have required biennial smog checks for motorcycles, met too much resistance from bikers' rights groups and was amended last year.
The retooled version of SB 435 focuses only on exhaust-pipe-tampering and bikes that exceed the EPA-regulated 80-decibel limit for bikes manufactured since 1985. While an illegally noisy exhaust often goes hand in hand with a bike that exceeds allowable emissions, the 2010 version of SB 435 does not specifically address the smog-forming pollutants resulting from illegally modified bikes. It does, however, hold the potential to also reduce emissions -- if it's enforced.
According to the Air Resources Board, which backed the smog-check version of SB 435, motorcycles account for less than 1% of vehicle-miles traveled in the state yet account for 10% of passenger vehicles' smog-forming emissions; swapping a compliant tailpipe equipped with a catalytic converter for one without emissions controls can emit as many as 10 times more smog-forming pollutants per mile.
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Anyon notice stock pipes are getting louder? My 1198 is louder then the 1098. New F4, I think, is louder than the old one. RSV4 is pretty loud too.
 

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Well....can't say we haven't seen it coming....thanks all you "loud pipes save lives" idiots...

Yep, here's a toast to all the "I'm looking for the loudest exhaust system I can get for my MV...any suggestions?" posts.
 

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Dont blame them, blame the chopper and harley guys. Sport bike exhausts, even the loudest ones are no match for some of these chopper pipes.
 

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Dont blame them, blame the chopper and harley guys. Sport bike exhausts, even the loudest ones are no match for some of these chopper pipes.
Hit the nail on the head!
 

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Ever heard a sport bike with one of those no baffle tiny megaphones that have become popular?? make your ears bleed.
 

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Not more so than a chopper with 2 12" pipes for an exhaust coming out of the engine!
 

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Oh...I agree...it's the Harley nit-wits that are the worst offenders....but I've heard some pretty loud sport bikes, too.

What I want to know is if they plan to also do something about the car audio systems that rattle my teeth at stop lights???? Nothing better then to have your radio drowned out by some rap-crap coming out of another car near-by on the road.
 

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In Cali, if your audio can be heard from 50ft away, its a ticket. Has been for a very long time.
 

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Well....can't say we haven't seen it coming....thanks all you "loud pipes save lives" idiots...

Yep, here's a toast to all the "I'm looking for the loudest exhaust system I can get for my MV...any suggestions?" posts.
Aha, that's surely a good point for me to step in and comment.

Here is my thoughts. I am not satisfied with my bike exhaust only being heard in Indonesia. My main goal is for the MV to be heard up to 16,000km away from where i am riding so i can have an impact on US legislation :yo:
 

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Aha, that's surely a good point for me to step in and comment.

Here is my thoughts. I am not satisfied with my bike exhaust only being heard in Indonesia. My main goal is for the MV to be heard up to 16,000km away from where i am riding so i can have an impact on US legislation :yo:
Nice...

Next that crazy war hero Arnie will be banning guns...and Amy Winehouse tracks!
 

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Next that crazy war hero Arnie will be banning guns...and Amy Winehouse tracks!
I was listening to the slapper on the way home from work the other day. We have 2 of her CD's in the car. She has a few songs i really like. Makes me want to take up crack get a few tats, date a druggo and get implants.
 

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Well....can't say we haven't seen it coming....thanks all you "loud pipes save lives" idiots...

Yep, here's a toast to all the "I'm looking for the loudest exhaust system I can get for my MV...any suggestions?" posts.
 

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Oh...I agree...it's the Harley nit-wits that are the worst offenders....but I've heard some pretty loud sport bikes, too.

What I want to know is if they plan to also do something about the car audio systems that rattle my teeth at stop lights???? Nothing better then to have your radio drowned out by some rap-crap coming out of another car near-by on the road.
Bloody true ED, how come both those, Harley's and RapCrap come from the US....lol
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Aha, that's surely a good point for me to step in and comment.

Here is my thoughts. I am not satisfied with my bike exhaust only being heard in Indonesia. My main goal is for the MV to be heard up to 16,000km away from where i am riding so i can have an impact on US legislation :yo:
LOL - the good news is that seeing as you are in Sydney & Arnie in Los Angeles - you only need the sound to travel 12065.2klms that's a reduction of approx 25% on your estimates, which should make it more achievable so.... Go man - GO :yo:

On a side note - how can they hear the bike exhaust over the gun noise? or is that in fact the litmus test? :laughing: oops...best leave that one alone! ;)
 

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This is not and "us" or "them" situation. It doesn't matter if it's the Sport Bike Squid with an exhuast heard from more that a mile away as I enjoy my pool on a Saturday afternoon, or the neighbor with the Harley that, quite literally, rattles my windows as he throttles throught this quaint bedroom neighborhood...we are looking at targeted legislation...and WE are the target.

IF the real target was the NOISE, Then the legislation would be a bill that encompassed all vehicle-emitted noise over 80 decibels. That would include radio noise, emissions noise, "Jake Brakes", and any other vehicle created noise that exceeded the mandated decibel level.
 

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Ed your listening to a gramophone how can anything drown that out with the speaker in your ear.

Donsy RAP CRAP is going to be coming your way as soon as you guys and in Europe realize Techno went out years ago.
 

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Techno did go out years ago, but the various types of trance (and my fav hardstyle) didnt! :D
 
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