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Whenever I'm at decent speed, the bike won't shift into 6th gear. It goes into some sort of false neutral, but not a full neutral because even with the clutch in while it's happening the engine makes little knocks and grabs a little like it's almost gonna go into gear. Once I coast down a little it will let me shift back down without any problems.if I try to kick it down into 5th while im at speed it makes a loud bang and to do the downshift it takes a big effort on the lever. This just started happening recently and I remember reading a post on this site that these first gen brutale have an issue with this,and that they need regular oil changes because sometimes a gear will stick to another.can it really be something so simple? It shifts into 6th at lower speeds fine, it only happens over 70 mikes an hour. What do you guys think? 2006 brutale 910s
 

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The gear engagement dogs in 6th gear are very close spaced for minimal lash. If you do not make a full and positive shift, holding your toe under pressure on the lever until the shift is completed, you can fail to make the mesh of the dogs fully. The free spinning 6th gear rpms are not matching with the moving engagement gear rpms closely enough.
This is what is happening to you. This is not uncommon on many high performance bikes at lower rpms (Hayabusa Suzuki is one I am familiar with). If you are shifting at a very high rpm it is less likely to occur...of course higher rpms in 5th and 6th mean you are going very fast indeed.
My Brutale 910R is the same, but I know why and what to do.
So the answer is to always maintain pressure on the upshift until you actually complete it.
 

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If you're trying your best to shift as esq'z me has instructed above and you are still having a hard time, some damage may have already been done. I had a problem with mine going into 2nd gear. The shift fork was bent and drive dogs were rounded off. I have a video on removing the transmission and finding the damage, link below.

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Well, since the bike would go into these false neutrals at least once or twice every ride, I actually moved my shift lever down closer to my toes so I could get a more positive shift and it seemed to help, but right now, just to make sure I knew what I was talking about, I actually tried shifting into 6th 3 times in a row in the space of 3 or 4 minutes and it did it every time, that weird neutral thing
 

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I was going to post this same question tonight. I just got an ‘06 910 with 2600 miles. It’s near perfect but I was having the same 6th gear issues today. Not every time but nearly.
Esq’z me, are you saying to hold pressure on shifting lever until the clutch is released entirely?
Is this trans really that different from others or is there a problem with this model?
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this is just my findings and have experimented with this if you are running a weak mixture it is harder to change gear ritchen it up and it smoothes gear changes
this is what i found.
 

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@c230kompw .... You just need to hold pressure until you feel the shift completed....you will feel it.

It's not just this model.... all first gen MVs have the same basic transmission, and it is a good one.

Suzukis are well known for smooth shifting transmissions, and yet I have experienced this same thing on Hayabusa and other bikes...for that matter, I've experienced it on other brands as well. During my 40+ years in the motorcycle industry I have ridden a LOT of bikes.
 

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Hey moocowman, how much did it cost to fix your tranny when that happened?
Since it is a cassette gearbox the engine stays in place. Couple of hours labor plus parts would be my guess....

But bent shift forks and rounded gear dogs generally result in a transmission that jumps out of gear, not simply failing to engage a gear (false neutral). And second gear is the most common because of the big jump through neutral and the high torque loads.
 

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So what in your opinion is most likely causing this. Between my 2 ducati's and my mv, I've had 34 street bikes over the years and have a lot of experience with good shifting practice. Plus, like I said in my earlier post, I tried to get it to hit 6th 3 times in a row in a matter of minutes and it did it every time.
 

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There is something else to this. My toes are sore from today’s ride to make sure I wasn’t short shifting to 6th and I still had 1 time of a false neutral. It also felt like it hit a solid stop while shifting but still neutral.
I really thought it was me before because most of my bikes are reverse shift but I know this time wasn’t me.
 

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The only answer will be to take the gearbox out and inspect it. But inspect the shifting mechanism first.
Sorry I can't be there to help.
 
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