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And it goes on...makes one think seriously about moving to somewhere with less officialdom meddling in our life.

Example 1: As mentioned previously we are now subjected to exhaust gas analysers being shoved in the rear to check if the cat has been removed or modified.
Example 2: Move house, inform QT etc etc. Gradually accumulate tickets, enough to lose the licence. QT sends notice to old address, so you ride around without realising you shouldn't be. Get caught, now it's a major offence with a long stretch on public transport.
Example 3: Get done for a noisy exhaust, bike impounded for 48 hours under hooning laws. Pick up bike from impound and get done again 500m down the road. Bike now impounded for 28 days, deregistered, double points applied so instant loss of licence. Impound guys didn't mention that the bike should have been towed/trailered to place of repair. Bank account about to be seriously depleted as well.

Time to move to a country town, where common sense still applies when it comes to this sort of thing.
Apologies for the venting, none of these examples relate to me personally, but I am really stirred up when decent people are being seriously [email protected]#ked in the rear.
Flame away if you wish, do the crime, do the time etc etc, but we are not talking about drugs, murder and rape here. I can't remember the last time a cut off rear fender resulted in murder, or 55kmh through a 40kmh workzone after the workers have left (and forgotten to take the signs down) wreaked havoc.
 

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I'm hearing you Jon :ahhh:

I think you know why I find myself riding the local tracks more and more.

In getec's track/road thread;

I have found that around $200 just for the trackday then travel, food, and logging is good value compared to $2000.00 fine, loose lic for 6 months and have your bike impounded because the cops say you were street racing.
Riding with mates at the track is a SAFE and fun way to enjoy motorcycling :drummer:

My F4 breaks ALL the stupid bureaucratic laws. I feel at real risk when I'm heading out with some mates to ride the mountains. I ride with in my ability, and to the road conditions. This is mountain roads, not suberbia, please do not confuse my rant with blantant bad/selfish/dangerous riding by idiots that bring down the name of all bike riders.

The Cops couldn't care less about your protests :blah: Infact, it makes the booking worse, so you stand there and cop it on the chin........Its a victimless crime, but I always feel like the bloody victim.

Me thinks its all about the money, bloody :jerkoff: 'ers
 

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In Brisbane it is nothing more than plain motorcyclist discrimination and victimization under the guise of protecting us and the community from ourselves (and in the process making revenue generation an art form)
Last month road block (Mt Glorious) just for bikes, checking everything, including width of rear mudguard!? In the short time I was in the 'line up', I did not see many bikes riding away without a fine for some infringement of sorts
And if you follow AMCN, the stats our protectors dish out on motorcyclist crash fatalities is flawed and at best plian lies
Its the police attitude to anyone who rides a bike that is totally unacceptable, their assertion that we are criminals and should be treated as such is a deep cultural belief that I cannot see ever changing, it breeds total contempt of the police service
I always laugh at the Queensland Police 'moto' you can view it on the badge on their sleeve as they treat you like crap and are writing out a disproportionate fine for the 'offence' To serve and protect... Oh Yeah
 

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And it goes on...makes one think seriously about moving to somewhere with less officialdom meddling in our life.

Example 1: As mentioned previously we are now subjected to exhaust gas analysers being shoved in the rear to check if the cat has been removed or modified.
Example 2: Move house, inform QT etc etc. Gradually accumulate tickets, enough to lose the licence. QT sends notice to old address, so you ride around without realising you shouldn't be. Get caught, now it's a major offence with a long stretch on public transport.
Example 3: Get done for a noisy exhaust, bike impounded for 48 hours under hooning laws. Pick up bike from impound and get done again 500m down the road. Bike now impounded for 28 days, deregistered, double points applied so instant loss of licence. Impound guys didn't mention that the bike should have been towed/trailered to place of repair. Bank account about to be seriously depleted as well.

Time to move to a country town, where common sense still applies when it comes to this sort of thing.
Apologies for the venting, none of these examples relate to me personally, but I am really stirred up when decent people are being seriously [email protected]#ked in the rear.
Flame away if you wish, do the crime, do the time etc etc, but we are not talking about drugs, murder and rape here. I can't remember the last time a cut off rear fender resulted in murder, or 55kmh through a 40kmh workzone after the workers have left (and forgotten to take the signs down) wreaked havoc.
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In Brisbane it is nothing more than plain motorcyclist discrimination and victimization under the guise of protecting us and the community from ourselves (and in the process making revenue generation an art form)

Last month road block (Mt Glorious) just for bikes, checking everything, including width of rear mudguard!? In the short time I was in the 'line up', I did not see many bikes riding away without a fine for some infringement of sorts

And if you follow AMCN, the stats our protectors dish out on motorcyclist crash fatalities is flawed and at best plian lies

Its the police attitude to anyone who rides a bike that is totally unacceptable, their assertion that we are criminals and should be treated as such is a deep cultural belief that I cannot see ever changing, it breeds total contempt of the police service

I always laugh at the Queensland Police 'moto' you can view it on the badge on their sleeve as they treat you like crap and are writing out a disproportionate fine for the 'offence' To serve and protect... Oh Yeah


Geez, it sounds like you could have moved to Nazi Germany circa 1939 & still has more freedom than Queensland 2012 :eek: I understand the round rego label holders will get you booked there as well? So if I come across the border I need to change it even on a day trip! :ahhh:

We have some money grabbing wanker politicians that put the cops in the firing line down here as well but they are not as bad as that ....................................YET!
 

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The disproportionate thing is that there are far more dangerous/unroadworthy cars out there than bikes.

If your bike is unsafe - generally you will harm yourself.

A car is a "weapon" - if it is dangerous/unroadworthy it would kill/mame far more people than a motorbike with a after-market exhaust!!

The other stupid thing is that people with "performance" cars and bikes (nee modified), from my experience, keep them in FAR better condition than the majority of people.

Whilst I'm having a rant, howcome it is, in this era of "safety" concerns by our "policy" writers, do our police force drive mildly modified vehicles and the motorbike police wear MINIMAL safety gear?

It's late and i'm a little cranky ha ha!!
 

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It is the same around the world...

You ride a motorcycle because you choose to. Because you ride a motorcycle, you are subject to other people's beliefs about motorcycles and motorcyclists. Those beliefs are tainted by "loud pipes" and hooligan riding. Laws are changed by the noisy minority.

You are a public target.
 

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I'm hearing you Jon :ahhh:

I think you know why I find myself riding the local tracks more and more.

In getec's track/road thread;



Riding with mates at the track is a SAFE and fun way to enjoy motorcycling :drummer:

My F4 breaks ALL the stupid bureaucratic laws. I feel at real risk when I'm heading out with some mates to ride the mountains. I ride with in my ability, and to the road conditions. This is mountain roads, not suberbia, please do not confuse my rant with blantant bad/selfish/dangerous riding by idiots that bring down the name of all bike riders.

The Cops couldn't care less about your protests :blah: Infact, it makes the booking worse, so you stand there and cop it on the chin........Its a victimless crime, but I always feel like the bloody victim.

Me thinks its all about the money, bloody :jerkoff: 'ers

I ride with in my ability, and to the road conditions.
+1 Rob

I also was in the mountains on a state highway which would only see 100 or so cars and bikes a day.
Cop has assumed we were street racing because we were 20 metres apart.
 

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NSW Police is pretty similar with their attitudes towards riders. It really doesn't matter what you're riding or what you're doing. They just love stopping you to flex their authority.
 

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Melbourne IS the Revenue capital.......
At least you have good quality roads and highways in Vic.
NSW pays the highest rego's, Insurances and rakes in over 300 million in speeding fines alone...... But we still have the crappiest quality roads which in my opinion is the cause of more accidents.
 

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But we still have the crappiest quality roads which in my opinion is the cause of more accidents.
You obviously haven't been up our way for a while... :stickpoke ;)
I wold love it if we could have road sections like the Oxley Hwy, Dorrigo etc etc up our way.
 

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You obviously haven't been up our way for a while... :stickpoke ;)
I wold love it if we could have road sections like the Oxley Hwy, Dorrigo etc etc up our way.
There are obviously some exceptions with NSW roads, but I would have to agree with CashDawg, that NSW roads have to be the worst in Australia proportionate to the amount of taxes we pay, not to mention house, food and general living costs.

I believe Sydney was voted the most expensive place to live in the world recently ! :shitfan:

I was caught speeding and had to go to court. The judge ruled in my favour with the evidence presented. Too often people (including Police) make an assumption and judgement without facts being tendered or explained correctly...

You've been pulled over and say:

"But Officer, my wife is pregnant and is having contractions..."

"my father is dying, please let me get to the hospital so I can say goodbye..."

"I ran the red light because the truck behind me was not going to stop in time..."

The reply is usually:

"Do you know how fast you were going?":thewife:
"You're under arrest for...":wtf::jsm::eek:nthecan:

"I've been chasing you for about 12 minutes and the speed you were going was ridiculous..." :drummer:

"Can I have your drivers licence and rego...won't be long..." :cross:

Instead of saying:

"OK, I will provide lights and sirens escort, follow me...and try to keep up...":smoking:

and

"OK, from what you have told me, I agree / disagree based on the following...and I see you can ride a bike, which incidentally is in excellent mechanical condition and looks beautiful, you also have the proper riding gear and approved helmet, so take this as a warning :)......by the way is that a Ducati? " :jsm:


NOTE: I have no 'negative feelings' towards most police (nor any other 'serving the public' occupation) and give these people the respect they deserve, as they do a job which is sometimes pretty difficult...It's just those 'certain few' you come across in life that have to ruin the reputation of the majority who are honestly trying to "protect and serve" or "assist/help".
 
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