[Tangosmango]

Hey guys. So I just received my brand new 1000RS and I too it for a 1 hour 30min ride. Afterwards, I hung out with a buddy and in about 20-25min, the bike shut off and was sluggish to turn on then turned off completely. Nothing lights up except the taillights for a second then they turn off.

Called the dealer and they said I shouldn't have left the key in the bike for so long, ops. They are sending the accessories Tuesday which then will take until Friday/Saturday or arrive. Is there any local options I can partake in to charge the battery? There is a dealer here locally that is MV certified. But again, today is Sunday and they are closed today and tomorrow. Is my only option to wait until the dealer sends the charger?


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Couldn't I use these connections and use the SAE port on the right side of the bike? Or is the cable adapter not meant for actual jumping?

If not, I am looking to see how to access the battery so I can jump it with a lithium charger (the NOCO), but as I do not have the manual, I am not sure how to remove the rider seat to access the battery.

 

[silentservice703]

Just charge the battery at the charge port on the right hand side of the bike. You can use the MV Adapter (third item you listed above) with the Noco charger and tehr is no need for SAE conversion.

 

[Tangosmango]

Just charge the battery at the charge port on the right hand side of the bike. You can use the MV Adapter (third item you listed above) with the Noco charger and tehr is no need for SAE conversion.

Oh awesome! Well, I get the adapter tomorrow (Monday). The charger comes today so is using the battery a proper alternative?

So I got the riders seat off and I hit the state of charge button and it shows two bars out of 6.

 

[silentservice703]

What you are seeing is a dead battery. It needs to be charged for 24 hours whether you jump start the bike or not.
Out of curiosity: What brand and type of battery is in your bike?
The Battery Charge Pigtail is not robust enough to be used as a jump start device. You need to go directly to the battery terminals or to the Start Solenoid terminals.

 

[Tangosmango]

What you are seeing is a dead battery. It needs to be charged for 24 hours whether you jump start the bike or not.
Out of curiosity: What brand and type of battery is in your bike?
The Battery Charge Pigtail is not robust enough to be used as a jump start device. You need to go directly to the battery terminals or to the Start Solenoid terminals.

By pigtail, you mean the connection on the right side of the bike, correct?

So I should use the NOCO charger, connect terminals like I would with a car and leave it connected for 24 hours?

I attached a picture of the battery

 

[silentservice703]

The Pigtail is the connection on the right hand side of the bike. It designed for charging current.
As that battery is a Lithium unit, you will need a charger that handles Lithium batteries. They are their own special animals. The Noco charger for Lithium is a good charger. You can connect it to the Noco/MV adapter, plug the adapter into the Pigtail and allow it to charge from there.

 

[Tangosmango]

The Pigtail is the connection on the right hand side of the bike. It designed for charging current.
As that battery is a Lithium unit, you will need a charger that handles Lithium batteries. They are there own special animals. The Noco charger for Lithium is a good charger. You can connect it to the Noco/MV adapter, plug the adapter into the Pigtail and allow it to charge from there.

Awesome! Thank you very much for the help. The charger comes today and the adapter comes tomorrow. Looks like I'll have to wait to ride couple days but that's okay.

 

[silentservice703]

Awesome! Thank you very much for the help. The charger comes today and the adapter comes tomorrow. Looks like I'll have to wait to ride couple days but that's okay.

You can certainly use the alligator clips that come with the charger to clamp onto your battery terminals and get the battery charging.
Clamp the POSITIVE (RED) clamp to the positive terminal and clamp the NEGATIVE (BLACK) clamp to any unpainted body metal part.

 

[Tangosmango]

You can certainly use the alligator clips that come with the charger to clamp onto your battery terminals and get the battery charging.

What do you use for ground on this bike?

 

[silentservice703]

What do you use for ground on this bike?

Any unpainted metal frame part.

 

[Tangosmango]

Any unpainted metal frame part.

Gotcha. Thank you very much! I'll try getting the charged started once I get it today.

 

[Tangosmango]

Any unpainted metal frame part.

I put it on lithium 12V. It's showing flashing red one bar which manual says means less than 25%. The bike HUD is constantly turning on and off. The taillights are on fully. So do I just leave it for X amount of hours now? The manual says it can take anywhere from 1.5hour for 20amp hour to 17.3hours for 230amp hour.

Took the keys out. So I just relax and let it charge? It's exciting and worry some 😅

 

[silentservice703]

Yes.

 

[EBBO]

Yes a long time. Leave it be. If the charger gets hot you can unplug it and start again where you left off

 

[Tangosmango]

Yes a long time. Leave it be. If the charger gets hot you can unplug it and start again where you left off

It actually finished full charge in about 1 hour 35min. The charger, battery and bike HUD showed full battery. Took it for a ride and she purred!

Tomorrow I get the MV adapter so I'll hook it up when I'm done riding.

So leaving the key in where bike is on but not ignited will still drain battery? Taking out keys will not suffice, I NEED to have the charger via Pigtail is necessary?

 

[EBBO]

Don't turn the key to any 'on' position unless you plan to ride it. Just sticking the key in without turning it is fine. Activating by turning the key would cause a drain. Avoid that. Key in is fine. Turning key causes a drain.

It might be wise to bring your charger with you when riding until you know your battery is behaving well. Use a backpack.

It's best practice to keep your battery charging when not in use, meaning when not riding. Develop that habit like checking air pressure and wearing earplugs before going out. Keep it charging even though you said it's fully charged. I would think your charger has an auto low power maintenance mode like the Shorai charger. Look for that info in the instructions.

 

[Tangosmango]

Don't turn the key to any 'on' position unless you plan to ride it. Just sticking the key in without turning it is fine. Activating by turning the key would cause a drain. Avoid that. Key in is fine. Turning key causes a drain.

It might be wise to bring your charger with you when riding until you know your battery is behaving well. Use a backpack.

It's best practice to keep your battery charging when not in use, meaning when not riding. Develop that habit like checking air pressure and wearing earplugs before going out. Keep it charging even though you said it's fully charged. I would think your charger has an auto low power maintenance mode like the Shorai charger. Look for that info in the instructions.

I'm not sure which setting is similar to auto low power maintenance mode.

I do have a very nice backpack but this battery charger is not portable meaning it needs an outlet. Should I purchase a portable one for emergencies until I know battery is good? Any recommendations?

 

[esq'z me]

The NOCO charger is an excellent "smart" charger. Plug it into the bike's charger connection. Direct to battery is not needed. You don't need to worry about overcharge or overheat. It is a smart charger !!!
Are you locking the forks when the key is off? If so you may be turning the key to the "park" position which turns on the tail light....don't do that. One notch back will lock forks without the lights on.
Putting the fork lock in the "park" position is a common cause of dead batteries on all brands of bikes.

 

[Tangosmango]

The NOCO charger is an excellent "smart" charger. Plug it into the bike's charger connection. Direct to battery is not needed.
Are you locking the forks when the key is off? If so you may be turning the key to the "park" position which turns on the tail light....don't do that. One notch back will lock forks without the lights on.
Putting the fork lock in the "park" position is a common cause of dead batteries on all brands of bikes.

Gotcha. I'm waiting for the adapter to connect to the charger connection.

I don't think I'm leaving it park. I'll double check from now on though.

 

[silentservice703]

That NOCO charger will automatically put itself in the desired mode.
You need to understand that simply because the battery indicates "Fully Charged" does not mean that you should take it off the charger and go riding.
All batteries require a directed overcharge period. For Lea-Acid that desuflates the cells, for Lithium it provide cell balancing.
If you want that battery to last and perform well, it needs an equalizing charge (24 hours) an, because it is lithium, it should be maintained between 35% and 100% of charge where 75% is optimum for long term storage.