Race ECU and PC5 is an option, but less of a price also gives you less results. I have looked into Bazzaz in the past and could not find anything for the F4, might have changed though.
That's what I meant :naughty:With the greatest respect why spend anything when the problem with the running of a 312 is ignition related and not fuel (well not as much as people think).
Nothing and i mean Nothing commercially available offers you access to the ignition maps other than a Microtec.
I've been in your position, i've spent months researching options for my customers and the only one that i found that did everything and more was the Microtec. No it isn't cheap but $ for $ it offers far greater value for money and opens up the full potential of the bike.
If you're buying new then prices here break down as follows.
Race ECU £350-400
PCV £310 ish
Dyno time £150 ish
Grand total £810-£860 ish
For that you get to turn the 02 sensor off as dyno jet still don't offer a cure for that and you get to only adjust fuel by intercepting the signal not actually controlling the timing.
The Microtec from me is as follows.
Fitting and mapping £231.60
Both sets of prices include our sales tax here which is 20%:jsm::jsm::jsm::jerkoff: Which doesn't apply to you.
The Microtec will allow fuel adjustemnt to each injector individually, ignition adjustment, quickshifter input, switchable maps, launch control, pit limiter, adjustable rev limit, and proper user defined fuel and ignition transients not a global adjustment like other piggyback units. With extra sensors it has the potential to offer a lot more as well.
My advice is if you can't justify a Microtec then that's cool but please don't waste good money after bad trying to acheive a similar result for less, it isn't out there and you will just waste your cash. You would get better value for money changing that cash into £1 bills and going to a titty bar for the weekend or if that ain't your thang then spend it on fireworks or something.
Your suggestion is an option yes; but not a very good one.
As an aside i had a customer drop his MV off the other day. whilst he was here i let him have a go on another bike similar to his that had the ECU fitted just to give him an idea of what we were aiming to achieve.
He was gone just under 10 minutes and came back saying "if you can do that to my bike i'll be a very happy man indeed. You can feel the difference just pulling out the drive way let alone just riding it".
I have a gravel drive here so crap running bikes show up on this type of surface quite easily.
I stand by the product, it allows the bike to work properly but saying that it is only as good as the map being installed into it...........crap map = crap bike
Dons is ya man for the launch control. I've never actually used it personally (stupid i know but just never got round to it) whereas Dons has used it in anger racing i believe.X81 good answer. .... Does it take an expert to fit all that stuff?
How does 'launch control' work is there a switch to turn everything off or is it all done thru the computer???
I just bought complete bazzaz kits little over $1300 for my Duc, when I called for support WTF they don't know what the fuck I was talking about, giving me all kind of bad direction, their so new on market most of phone supporter don't even know what the hell they were talking about. I don't think they made one for MV yet.
And you are right mate, I rode my first season with a PC3 only, not even a Race ECU in the bike, in most cases I would just get the PC3 and a good dyno guy. As long as you know that's as good as it will get, and honestly - that is enough for many guys too.I can do a race ecu and PC5 for close to half of what the Microtec it's self will cost me. Not everyone can just say hey this is better so I'll spend twice as much. I would at some point like to get an exhaust too and considering what that costs saving $600-$800 on the ecu would really help out.
you might be right if you do/install your self, as first I bought FBF clipon, and it was popping and back fire like hell, nobody advise me to get microtech, most advise for pc3usb, air filter so went with that round, buying everything from the guys at dyno tuning and let them do it for me cause I was know nothing hand on the MV, here is what was cost me without Race ECU, last year Race ECU I bought for $550 might be less this years, total cost me $1500 for my bike run it right.I can do a race ecu and PC5 for close to half of what the Microtec it's self will cost me. Not everyone can just say hey this is better so I'll spend twice as much. I would at some point like to get an exhaust too and considering what that costs saving $600-$800 on the ecu would really help out.
Fair enough and like i said i appreciate it isn't the cheapest option but it does offer everything you want.I can do a race ecu and PC5 for close to half of what the Microtec it's self will cost me. Not everyone can just say hey this is better so I'll spend twice as much. I would at some point like to get an exhaust too and considering what that costs saving $600-$800 on the ecu would really help out.