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I'm really beginning to hate my F4.
I got home today to find the new battery I'd fitted only a week ago had leaked all over the swingarm, shock and linkages.

The battery was a MF YTZ10S. Any chance I've been sold the wrong one? Is anybody liable in a situation like this or is it always tough shit?

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wrong battery me thinks...I looked up the yuasa website and they recommended the 12amp version because the 10amp would need some sort of special adapter or fitting
 

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Hmm. A common problem then. I did charge it for a good 24 hours before it was fitted, but never left it to stand on it's side. (And the dealer made no mention of this.)

Anyone know of any way to restore the finish on the swingarm? Is there a paint code I can touch up over the whitened areas with?

The inside of my bellypan is also wrecked. It'd started eating through the plastic. (By the way, all this happened with an hour and 50 miles!)

Looks like the shock is in a bad way. Anyone got any prices on replacements?

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outtadaloop said:
wrong battery me thinks...I looked up the yuasa website and they recommended the 12amp version because the 10amp would need some sort of special adapter or fitting
Interesting. Have you got a link to that?
If it's the wrong battery I'm coming down hard on the dealer.

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I couldnt paste the link but if you go to yuasa's website and look up the battery type for your bike, it will clearly tell you in red about the required spacer.
 

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Ok, I got it now. I was looking at the Yuasa Europe site, and they don't seem to list an motorcycles at all.

It does indeed suggest that the YTZ10S may leak if the bike's not had a factory upgrade. I shall be paying my dealer a visit tomorrow!!

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TheCatWhisperer said:
I'm really beginning to hate my F4.
I got home today to find the new battery I'd fitted only a week ago had leaked all over the swingarm, shock and linkages.

The battery was a MF YTZ10S. Any chance I've been sold the wrong one? Is anybody liable in a situation like this or is it always tough shit?

Si
Bollocks, it makes a right mess, early F4's had a habit of doing this, later one's have a factory sealed Yuasa battery, I think that is the way to go, also Frosts classic car restoration supplies, sell a "battery mat" just cut and sit the battery in this, it's supposed to neutralise the acid if the battery leaks
 

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(Deja vu, deja vu)

I bought my '01 in early '02, so it had been sitting a while. It had a dying battery.

The dealer put in an Exide 2 weeks after I first got it, and it promptly did the same thing, although I caught it and cleaned it up before it got THAT bad. Holy cow.

Damage including labor was something like $6000. I did the legwork and got a settlement out of Exide for $3500.

I felt bad to pressure my dealer over it, but he did put the battery in. He started the ball rolling with Exide and I sort of picked it up for him. My bike sat idle for about 3 months and it was killing me.

My intentions were only to get back on the bike and ride it, and I think this is what worked. I wasn't out for blood, just to get riding again.
 

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Damage including labor was something like $6000
?????!!!!!
Really? I can't imagine my damage being anything like that high. Apart from the shock, which I fear has had the chrome stripped from the push rod, everything else is cosmetic. I'm unable to get a look at the bottom of the shock as it's hidden within the swingarm, so I'm hoping the linkages there are ok. The top linkages have a little bit of surface decolouration but nothing that wouldn't polish out.

I don't know what the price of a swingarm is, but if I wanted to replace all the damaged stuff with new it'd be new bellypan (guess at £500?), new shock (£650 Ohlins), new swingarm (god knows, but £750 is perhaps the ballpark..) everything else is (hopefully) solved with elbow grease.

I may be on weaker ground than you since I fitted the battery myself. I imagine the dealer or Yuasa's defence would be that they can't guarantee that either a) the bike is running and charging correctly, or b) that the correct battery preparation was performed.

My guess is I'm stuffed for comeback, but I'll have a go at the dealer anyhow. I do consider them responsible, whether they're able to weedle out of it or not.

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outtadaloop said:
Amer: You gotta read the fine print...

Factory upgrade, must use spacer from MV (otherwise use YT12A-BS)
Ahh crap the fine print did not see me...That solves my confusion..Thanks
 

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TheCatWhisperer...you are having a bad run of luck just lately . Hope you get this resovled qucikly with a minimum of angst and cost.

The FAQ has the paint codes.
 

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Good news!! I spoke to the dealer who sold me the battery and without prompting they admitted *full* responsibility and will do all repairs. They also offered to have the salesman shot if I can pick him out of a line-up! :)

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Good news!! I spoke to the dealer who sold me the battery and without prompting they admitted *full* responsibility and will do all repairs. They also offered to have the salesman shot if I can pick him out of a line-up! :)

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That really is good news, get on with it pronto before they say "how much?" :stickpoke
 

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TheCatWhisperer said:
Good news!! I spoke to the dealer who sold me the battery and without prompting they admitted *full* responsibility and will do all repairs. They also offered to have the salesman shot if I can pick him out of a line-up! :)

Si
Well, that's kind of lucky, except if they are ordering new parts you might be sitting around a while.

Since my bike was less than 2 weeks old when I got it, I was in "I want it as good as new mode". So that's why it cost so much.

These days, other than repainting the swingarm with that BBQ paint or whatever it is that matches perfectly, I wouldn't care so much. I did get an RG3 pipe out of it too.
 

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i wonder if they have priced these parts out. you may hear a change of tune then, but hopefully not. keep them AWAY from the internet!! :laughing:

funny, i have the same battery and when i noticed the gap because of it's smaller size, it seemed to be jusssst enough room for my wheel nut tool. so that's where it sits. holding the tool and battery snugly in place....man i got to start taking pics.
 

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i wonder if they have priced these parts out. you may hear a change of tune then
Well, the guy I spoke to is the manager of the parts section of a franchised MV dealer, so he should already be roughly familiar with the costs. I'd be happy with a new shock and bellypan if they're able to touch up the swingarm. That shouldn't cost them more than £1k.

Si
 
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