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My Builder /race engineer who has been doing work on my 2007 MV F4 312R (fork cartridges/seals, rear shock , new hub , billet side stand ,plugs , tune ,added traction control,silicone hoses, racing water pump and Febur racing radiator.) is the poster child for OCD. Great for building engines and ECU tuning and his work is immaculate(and slow lol) He has been in Motorcycle racing for 25 years and has sworn that the Japanese are the only manufacturers that really make a truly good product . The European and Italian manufacturers may make a motorcycle that excel in one area but never thought through as a whole .
Meaning good all around bike ,race machine , ease of maintenance , fit and finish.
What a shock it was to hear the same guy turn and say to me ... I have to admit , I am really impressed with the MV AGUSTA F4 . They really thought this bike through , its easy to work on,(compared to Japanese ) all the pieces line up & mount correctly, fit & finish is excellent and when I took it out for a ride the chassis gave good feedback and stable mid corner.He went on to say the power band was broad and linear, not peaky like the new ZX10R that Kawasaki had loaned the track.
Lastly he looked at me and said ..you know , after all the magazine articles putting the MV F4 as a bike that could be great but needs refinement . I never thought I would like the MV F4, but after I rode the bike it turns out to be my favorite liter bike. I then replied ...Rich I thought the same way till I rode the F4, then I bought it the next day. Will have full report/pics on upgrades when bike returns .
 

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This is why I don't rate magazines at all & don't go by their reviews good, bad or indifferent.

Generally in the reviewing business, there is, inter alia:

1. Vested interests,
2. Human bias and;
3. Just plain dickheads, pure & simple.

Until they can get someone to review a bike using my bum, my heart & my soul - I see it as useful as someone telling what tastes good & what doesn't.

Pretty much the bike magazines I like to read are classic & enthusiasts' bike magazines because the political bullshit doesn't impinge on those - it's just about reliving the old world charm.

Like Noel said Jake, you are preaching to the converted which gives a damn good audience :) It's nice to hear stories like yours where others who were previously blind have now seen the light. :yo:
 

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Rob, without wanting to sound overly blasphemous, I think you should start 'The Church of MV Agusta'........you only require 12 followers (disciples)..... I'd be a starter......ps Churches don't pay Tax:naughty:
 

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This is why I don't rate magazines at all & don't go by their reviews good, bad or indifferent.

Generally in the reviewing business, there is, inter alia:

1. Vested interests,
2. Human bias and;
3. Just plain dickheads, pure & simple.

Until they can get someone to review a bike using my bum, my heart & my soul - I see it as useful as someone telling what tastes good & what doesn't.

Pretty much the bike magazines I like to read are classic & enthusiasts' bike magazines because the political bullshit doesn't impinge on those - it's just about reliving the old world charm.

Like Noel said Jake, you are preaching to the converted which gives a damn good audience :) It's nice to hear stories like yours where others who were previously blind have now seen the light. :yo:
I would say that they are inconsistent too. One time its this and the other time its exact the opposite for exactly the same thing. I just guess it has to do with the fact that dont know what to write and cant always write the same orso. When it comes to motorcycle magazines you should not judge who will write the best, but just who will write the least crap...
 

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This is why I don't rate magazines at all & don't go by their reviews good, bad or indifferent.

Generally in the reviewing business, there is, inter alia:

1. Vested interests,
2. Human bias and;
3. Just plain dickheads, pure & simple.

Until they can get someone to review a bike using my bum, my heart & my soul - I see it as useful as someone telling what tastes good & what doesn't.

Pretty much the bike magazines I like to read are classic & enthusiasts' bike magazines because the political bullshit doesn't impinge on those - it's just about reliving the old world charm.

Like Noel said Jake, you are preaching to the converted which gives a damn good audience :) It's nice to hear stories like yours where others who were previously blind have now seen the light. :yo:
Pretty much. Follow the money. Who advertises the most? Japanese makers and accessory makers for Japanese bikes. Being completely objective sometimes has financial implications.

I am however glad to see "some" honest feedback to MV. If they took some of the criticism to heart and corrected some minor issues there would be some majorly impressive MV's for sale.
 

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Rob, without wanting to sound overly blasphemous, I think you should start 'The Church of MV Agusta'........you only require 12 followers (disciples)..... I'd be a starter......ps Churches don't pay Tax:naughty:
count me in Rob :drummer:
 

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Rob, without wanting to sound overly blasphemous, I think you should start 'The Church of MV Agusta'........you only require 12 followers (disciples)..... I'd be a starter......ps Churches don't pay Tax:naughty:
Sorry Chris, I've been distracted by 'scambaiting' it's my new sport of the moment. The game is basically to reply to a scammer (using a Hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc account) and show great interest & even greater gullibility, then via a serious of changed circumstances, the money is lamost there not quite there etc etc, the key to see how long you can keep them online looking for the money in a frustrated state until they simply give up in exasperation.

[email protected] gave up after 3 days of my failed Western Union deposits and failed Pay pal deposits, damn lightweight.

[email protected] is doing far better 5 days in and can he almost smell that $950 shipping fee I sent him - he's worked hard and is seeing is reward on the (vanishing) Horizon, now this guy is a stayer - YEAH!

Apart from being very enjoyable, I am doing a public service by keeping them from targeting others and demoralising them in the process :)

Ok so, Tax free, Church, MV Agusta? They are things that appeal to me - keep talking I am listening :smoking: :naughty: :laughing:
 

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Sorry Chris, I've been distracted by 'scambaiting' it's my new sport of the moment. The game is basically to reply to a scammer (using a Hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc account) and show great interest & even greater gullibility, then via a serious of changed circumstances, the money is lamost there not quite there etc etc, the key to see how long you can keep them online looking for the money in a frustrated state until they simply give up in exasperation.

[email protected] gave up after 3 days of my failed Western Union deposits and failed Pay pal deposits, damn lightweight.

[email protected] is doing far better 5 days in and can he almost smell that $950 shipping fee I sent him - he's worked hard and is seeing is reward on the (vanishing) Horizon, now this guy is a stayer - YEAH!

Apart from being very enjoyable, I am doing a public service by keeping them from targeting others and demoralising them in the process :)
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Absolutely brilliant!! I love it!

My wife received an obvious one today, I believe I shall have a go at this scambaiting you speak of...was this your idea Rob? I sit behind a screen all day, with only MV.net to fill the boring gaps. This is perfect!
 

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Absolutely brilliant!! I love it!

My wife received an obvious one today, I believe I shall have a go at this scambaiting you speak of...was this your idea Rob? I sit behind a screen all day, with only MV.net to fill the boring gaps. This is perfect!
I have been doing this for a while but I certainly can't lay claim to inventing it. There's quite of few us in the "Scambaiting' world & it is growing. I, usually as a sign of good faith provide my personal details at the very outset:

Robert Plunderandflee

77 Dreams Crescent

Barrack Hope NSW 1H8U2

Australia

No telephone as I suffered an injury as a child rendering me deaf but I have a TTY Phone & can communicate thru (they never ask). My latest target has been to the Western Union office with my fictitious MTCN : 3121078037 - (those numbers should sense to you) after I explained there was a computer glitch with checking those online with Western Union BUT definitely available if they into a Western Union Office :) 8 days and we are still going :) I do like this guy's style. :yo: You would be surprised how the don't pick up on the name & address! :wtf: Shows you the caliber of thses guys.

I have a feeling it would look something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NF-R-McfN1Q#t=88

Just substitute the Black leather for Dainese and the Chrome with Carbon Fibre.
I reckon something like that is definitely in that ballpark Robert :yo: - more dancing & more MV logos required ;)

Rob, I'll be in if you are able to perform a couple of miracles:

Walk on Lake Varese.
Completely fill the assembled masses MV Agusta fuel tanks using a 2 litre petrol tin.

Kind regards,
Doubting Thomas. :)
Dear Doubting Thomas,

I fear you have mistaken me for the Messiah, which I am not, He could certainly walk upon Lake Varese & fill the required tanks.

I am merely the rock upon which the Church will be founded, I can attest to the MV faith and give sermons of the miracles performed Agostini & others on the race track. I can spread the word via infectious enthusiasm and unadulterated passion - once you pay homage at the holy city of Varese you will have all doubts removed.

OK....now let's move to the tax free stuff..... :naughty::naughty: :naughty:

Yours in MV

His MVistaness Rob the 1st :)
 

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I reckon something like that is definitely in that ballpark Robert :yo: - more dancing & more MV logos required ;)
Absolutely. It's actually a quite funny jab towards actual Harley owners but when you said "church" could not resist. More MV logos and a CC and a Tamburini on the alter. And I'm sorry those chrome handle bars will not do. Go Magnesium or go home.

BTW. I'm also a Harley owner with a great sense of humor. :)
 

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Absolutely. It's actually a quite funny jab towards actual Harley owners but when you said "church" could not resist. More MV logos and a CC and a Tamburini on the alter. And I'm sorry those chrome handle bars will not do. Go Magnesium or go home.



BTW. I'm also a Harley owner with a great sense of humor.

Keep up that type of good work & we need to find you a position within the Church :)

Yes, thank goodness for a sense of humour - I quite enjoyed that & this :)
 

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Keep up that type of good work & we need to find you a position within the Church :)

Yes, thank goodness for a sense of humour - I quite enjoyed that & this :)
At the risk of being highly distasteful.....

Only if I get to touch the bikes inappropriately preferably on a closed track somewhere. :)
 

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Castle ESSO? your really aging yourself lol. ESSO changed to EXXON roughly 30 years ago . DAMMIT I aged myself just knowing it ESSO changed name 30 years ago lol.

At one time I TOO believed the Moto journalists reviews that stated that the MV F4 was A BEAST that was too high stung for the street. My FIRST MV was a 2009 MV F4 1078R .I didn't know it then, but Now having a better knowlage of MV motorcycles, I know that the Ohlins Fork cartridges/rear shock and Motocorse exhaust wasn't OEM parts on an exotic motorcycle.
The previous owner had went top of the line components and full race engine internals& tune. But the full race set up on a street bike just didn't work.The brakes/suspension where so stiff/taunt & the engines power band so peaky(big cams/head work ect ) that unless you where riding like a man possessed the bike was Flat. The bike somewhat reminded me of a Yamaha TZ750 I made street legal ( many moons ago) by putting it through DOT as a purged title . It was my FIRST MV and it fit the Moto Jounalists review to a tee. I hated the bike and sold it 2 weeks later for 9000$( same as I paid for bike )
LUCKILY I saw a 2007 MV F4 1000R/312R that had 837 miles on it, owned by Ferracci son who was CEO of MV AGUSTA USA and it was Such a beautiful bike I took the chance and bought it on the spot.
LOVE THIS MV F4 1000R and JUST got it back from upgrading suspension Front= custom made JRI 30mm fork cartridges REAR=Nitron triple adjustable /hydrolic preload race shock. New hub , FG Gubillinni PRO 2 Traction /wheelie control ISR front calipers /BRAKING brand Master Cylinders ,Discatti front/rear floating rotors in red color, Racing water Pump, Signa slipper clutch AND FEBUR Superbike radiator. I am going to do a photo shoot of bike and put up on site .
 

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BTW my race engineer/builder now a convert to MV AGUSTA knows many National road racers. He was so impressed with the Build and the MV F4 1000R he let 2 of his buddies who are well known national AMA road racers test ride the bike . Although skeptical both racers took the bike out and came back stating that they where REALLY surprised how good the overall F4 power /handling package was and that they rethought/agreed how competitive MV could be in WSBK especially in the new EVO WSBK class.

Just so people know these reviews/opinions arnt just MV owner /rose colored glasses bias .
I also Own a very clean 1995 Kawasaki GPZ 1100 (Liquid cooled inline 4 ) In this day of only the latest and greatest motorcycle design is acceptable . EVERY rider I have let take the bike out to get his opinion on its performance has came back with great review stating the bike was very smooth, fast and stable .
When told its not a NEW model but a 1995 model that didn't sell well they look in disbelief thinking older Superbikes where all BEASTS from reading Moto journalists comparisons of older machines to the new models.
 

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Sorry Chris, I've been distracted by 'scambaiting' it's my new sport of the moment. The game is basically to reply to a scammer (using a Hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc account) and show great interest & even greater gullibility, then via a serious of changed circumstances, the money is lamost there not quite there etc etc, the key to see how long you can keep them online looking for the money in a frustrated state until they simply give up in exasperation.

[email protected] gave up after 3 days of my failed Western Union deposits and failed Pay pal deposits, damn lightweight.

[email protected] is doing far better 5 days in and can he almost smell that $950 shipping fee I sent him - he's worked hard and is seeing is reward on the (vanishing) Horizon, now this guy is a stayer - YEAH!

Apart from being very enjoyable, I am doing a public service by keeping them from targeting others and demoralising them in the process :)

Ok so, Tax free, Church, MV Agusta? They are things that appeal to me - keep talking I am listening :smoking: :naughty: :laughing:

Your best post ever !!!
LOL G
 
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