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I have a couple of days off work and thankfully some relief from the weather today. I called-in to the local dealership today (Spectrum Ducati/Aprilia/MV) to see if some decals I ordered were in. Our buddy Aaron answered the phone, and he mentioned to me that they had just today fitted their red/silver 1000R demo bike with the race ECU and RG3 exhaust - it's the very same bike all of us down here demo'd before we bought our F4's. Without wasting much time, I went there to try it out!

When I pulled-up, the bike had just come out of the shop with the upgrades. I noticed the shinier RG3 exhaust (a little more "silvery" than the gold-tinted stock exhausts). I couldn't wait to give the bike a spin.

Here are some of my impressions, note that these are really just my comments from the limited time I had spent on it this morning. So these are more for "street" situations, rather than "high-performance" track commentary:

1) I started the bike, there is barely any difference in sound with the RG3 exhaust compared to stock. So mild, it's almost insignificant.

2) The RPM was at about 1,800-1,900, definitely higher and sounding a bit more "aggro" than stock. Ok...

3) I give the throttle a little snap, and wow... that's different, the response from the engine was nice and tight... instantaneous, unlike the stock bike which will lag a bit when you do the same. It's like the bike talked and said "oh, so you wanna rock?" :D

4) So I pull out. The little surge from the 1,200rpm mark to the 2,000 mark (common on all 1000R's) is gone. When you pull-out with a 1000R (I hear it is the same for the liter Sennas) for the first time ever, that little surge from 0mph is a bit surprising. Not a big deal when you are used to it though. But it's nice that it's gone now.

5) So I go out, ready to terrorize the streets of Irvine. I go to some of my favorite nearby empty stretches and see for myself what the big deal about this Race ECU is all about... and it doesn't take long to see why:

The big flat spot and the 5K rpm is competely and totally GONE. The progression of the fuel delivery is straight as an arrow and does not deviate whatsover from its mission towards the higher RPM. Damn, now this is a PROPER 1000R. It felt so damn good, I went straight into the parts department when I got back and bought the damn ECU... and I am usually careful with my expenses, especially on big ticket items like this!​

Although the bike behaves much like the 312R now, it is still somewhat different in that the 312R tends to save much of its power for the top-end, whereas this 1000R tends to distribute the power more evenly. Where the 312R tends to be parabolic in its power delivery, this "proper" 1000R tends to be linear. This is the way I feel it is. Which is better? Shiiieeeetttt I'll take either one.​

6) RG3 Exhaust: The difference in sound between the RG3 exhaust and the stock exhaust on the 1000R can be confused as "no difference" on unfamiliar ears, however, if you are familiar with the sound the stock 1000R makes, you will definitely hear the difference, which I like very much. It is subtle, and does not bastardize the MV into an obnoxiously sounding bike. I am still, however, not sure whether I will fork the cash for it. I also do like the light-gold-tinted tips of the stock exhaust more than the more 'silvery' tips of the RG3.

Although the 1000R is a tremendous bike right out of the box, I must say that once you have tried the 312 or a 1000R with the race ECU, you might be like me and think that the 1000R's stock fueling is pretty fucked-up in it's stock form in comparison to this, pardon my french.

It makes me wonder why MV didn't do this to begin with, but I suppose they have to comply with very stringent euro emission standards... or maybe they just want more of our money, lol.
 

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I have a couple of days off work and thankfully some relief from the weather today. I called-in to the local dealership today (Spectrum Ducati/Aprilia/MV) to see if some decals I ordered were in. Our buddy Aaron answered the phone, and he mentioned to me that they had just today fitted their red/silver 1000R demo bike with the race ECU and RG3 exhaust - it's the very same bike all of us down here demo'd before we bought our F4's. Without wasting much time, I went there to try it out!

When I pulled-up, the bike had just come out of the shop with the upgrades. I noticed the shinier RG3 exhaust (a little more "silvery" than the gold-tinted stock exhausts). I couldn't wait to give the bike a spin.

Here are some of my impressions, note that these are really just my comments from the limited time I had spent on it this morning. So these are more for "street" situations, rather than "high-performance" track commentary:

1) I started the bike, there is barely any difference in sound with the RG3 exhaust compared to stock. So mild, it's almost insignificant.

2) The RPM was at about 1,800-1,900, definitely higher and sounding a bit more "aggro" than stock. Ok...

3) I give the throttle a little snap, and wow... that's different, the response from the engine was nice and tight... instantaneous, unlike the stock bike which will lag a bit when you do the same. It's like the bike talked and said "oh, so you wanna rock?" :D

4) So I pull out. The little surge from the 1,200rpm mark to the 2,000 mark (common on all 1000R's) is gone. When you pull-out with a 1000R (I hear it is the same for the liter Sennas) for the first time ever, that little surge from 0mph is a bit surprising. Not a big deal when you are used to it though. But it's nice that it's gone now.

5) So I go out, ready to terrorize the streets of Irvine. I go to some of my favorite nearby empty stretches and see for myself what the big deal about this Race ECU is all about... and it doesn't take long to see why:

The big flat spot and the 5K rpm is competely and totally GONE. The progression of the fuel delivery is straight as an arrow and does not deviate whatsover from its mission towards the higher RPM. Damn, now this is a PROPER 1000R. It felt so damn good, I went straight into the parts department when I got back and bought the damn ECU.​

Although the bike behaves much like the 312R now, it is still somewhat different in that the 312R tends to save much of its power for the top-end, whereas this 1000R tends to distribute the power more evenly. Where the 312R tends to be parabolic in its power delivery, this "proper" 1000R tends to be linear. This is the way I feel it is. Which is better? Shiiieeeetttt I'll take either one.​

6) RG3 Exhaust: The difference in sound between the RG3 exhaust and the stock exhaust on the 1000R can be confused as "no difference" on unfamiliar ears, however, if you are familiar with the sound the stock 1000R makes, you will definitely hear the difference, which I like very much. It is subtle, and does not bastardize the MV into an obnoxiously sounding bike. I am still, however, not sure whether I will fork the cash for it. I also do like the light-gold-tinted tips of the stock exhaust more than the more 'silvery' tips of the RG3.

Although the 1000R is a tremendous bike right out of the box, I must say that once you have tried the 312 or a 1000R with the race ECU, you might be like me and think that the 1000R's stock fueling is pretty fucked-up in it's stock form in comparison to this, pardon my french.

It makes me wonder why MV didn't do this to begin with, but I suppose they have to comply with very stringent euro emission standards... or maybe they just want more of our money, lol.

+1:naughty: but reset the ecu/TPS to restore the idle:)
 

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Would this race ECU fit a 2005 'S' model?

How much is it?
Nope... S models are the 1.6 Magneti Marelli ECU and require a new EPROM to change fuelling, not an ECU replacement. The R models are the new 5SM ECU that are replaced by the Race ECU from MV Corse.
 

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Great news Sig!:yo:

Keep us posted on how your bike reacts to the new ECU without the pipes.
Do you have an airfilter fitted?

:drummer::popcorn:
 

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Nice report!

So even to fix the fueling you would not fork over the extra $$$?

No Dova I believe you mis-understood. He seemed to love the fix that the race ECU provided in terms of fueling response, but was still somewhat reluctent to fork over the extra cash for the RG3 exhaust system which has less to do with the actual fueling and is more so related to a reduction in back pressure. In the future try to keep up, please. :)
 

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What a difference!

Guys,
I rode the same F41000R that Sig did today.
Smooth as silk! Absolutely no fueling issue with the Race ECU.
My ECU, RG 3's, and mid pipe are sitting in their service department. I bought them when I purchased the bike.
I'm waiting 'till my 600 mile service to have them put on at the same time.
Hopefully this stupid rain stops here in LA so I can put on the other 360 miles left.
I wish MV put the ECU on to begin with. I was told they had to lean out the fuel for Euro 3 emissions and noise which is measured at 5000rpm.
Anyone who is unhappy with "the surge" on their 1000R should invest in the Race ECU. You'll be happy you did.:yo:
 

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How much is this race ecu and where do I get one? Is it plug and play or does the bike need to be tuned after installing it?
 

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How much is this race ecu and where do I get one? Is it plug and play or does the bike need to be tuned after installing it?
I paid 820.00 + tax for the ECU. Yes, the bike will have to be "tuned" after installation. You will have to reset TPS and adjust idle trim. The dealer can do that, or you can buy the VDSTS and DIY if you are so inclined. VDSTS= Vehicle Diagnostic Scan Tool Software... read about it here:

http://www.technoresearch.com/Products/VDSTS-Motorbike/VDSTS_Motorbike_Features.htm
 

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Wouldn't a power commander be a cheaper option? I would have thought that a "race" ecu would have to be matched to an open link pipe and a an RG3 system. My advice, for what it's worth, is ensure that the ecu would improve and not disrupt fueling at any point of the rev range if the ecu is the only modification you intend to install. Anyway, good luck, let us know how you get on.
 

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No Dova I believe you mis-understood. He seemed to love the fix that the race ECU provided in terms of fueling response, but was still somewhat reluctent to fork over the extra cash for the RG3 exhaust system which has less to do with the actual fueling and is more so related to a reduction in back pressure. In the future try to keep up, please. :)
I am a:loser: I am all cleared up now. I suppose it was to much pure grain alcohol and rain water.

I had thought the race ecu had to be used in conjunction with the RG3 or race exhaust of some type. Thanks for clearing it up
 

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Wouldn't a power commander be a cheaper option? I would have thought that a "race" ecu would have to be matched to an open link pipe and a an RG3 system. My advice, for what it's worth, is ensure that the ecu would improve and not disrupt fueling at any point of the rev range if the ecu is the only modification you intend to install. Anyway, good luck, let us know how you get on.
It is my understanding that the Race ECU not only addresses fueling issues, but also adjusts timing as well, so it does a bit more than just a PCIII .
 

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I was just teasing you a bit Dova. Your good- but if you looking to save a few bucks and only wish to correct the tuning issues it sounds like the race ecu may do the trick.
 

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Hey guys I'm back, thanks for the helpful comments. I'll be hooking it up when I get home in about 10 days. I did consider the PC3 and some other more 'cost effective' alternatives, but after having ridden it, I was convinced I guess, to go all the way make it "proper." I plan on doing a base run dyno before and then do another dyno after the install, just for kicks too.
 

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Hey guys I'm back, thanks for the helpful comments. I'll be hooking it up when I get home in about 10 days. I did consider the PC3 and some other more 'cost effective' alternatives, but after having ridden it, I was convinced I guess, to go all the way make it "proper." I plan on doing a base run dyno before and then do another dyno after the install, just for kicks too.
So will you be changing JUST the ECU when you perform your before/after dyno runs, or will it also involve any exhaust/midpipe/air filter upgrads as well? I'd be curious to see what JUST the ECU does to change the performance of a stock bike, myself.
 
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