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If you have ever seen these guys at 44 Teeth, I quite like them, make some funny videos on their You Tube channel.
Last year they did a budget battle between SRAD 750 and ZX 7R, this time around its 999S Vs 312RR, should be interesting.

 

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If you have ever seen these guys at 44 Teeth, I quite like them, make some funny videos on their You Tube channel.
Last year they did a budget battle between SRAD 750 and ZX 7R, this time around its 999S Vs 312RR, should be interesting.

It is impossible not to love the 1078. And the power output is incredible. I’m lucky to have one. Thank you for sharing this video clip. I can wait to see the second part.
 

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@GCBC: You better give up on bikes, or learn how to set them up without destroying them. The 999 is lauded as one of the best bikes ever created.:smoking::blah:
 

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@GCBC: You better give up on bikes, or learn how to set them up without destroying them. The 999 is lauded as one of the best bikes ever created.<img src="http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/images/smilies/smoking.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smoking" class="inlineimg" /><img src="http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/images/smilies/blah.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Blah" class="inlineimg" />
If we forget about electrical issues the 999 was a great bike. A controversial design but a good balanced machine. I knew some people that ride it at the track and they love it.
 

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So pumped for this! Love the bikes they chose. I honestly don't think the MV will have the problem drama that they're talking about. Have a feeling like Al might need a few pushes though.
 

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Can’t fathom how he’s critiquing the F4s handling unless he spent zero time optimising it before setting off.
Bloody entertaining commentary though.
 

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Can’t fathom how he’s critiquing the F4s handling unless he spent zero time optimising it before setting off.
Bloody entertaining commentary though.
Now that I read your post.....I’m really wondering why the handling issues. My F4 1078 when I think doing one thing (curve) she responds immediately. Of course it is not a light bike to get out of one curve and enter in another one. But a F4 is not a R6....For me 1078RR is very well balanced on cruise speed.
 

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@GCBC: You better give up on bikes, or learn how to set them up without destroying them. The 999 is lauded as one of the best bikes ever created.:smoking::blah:
when have I destroyed a bike? thats rather rude. every bike ive had I setup very well including the 749 and 999,which stock were absolutely unrideable they need to much of geometry change and suspension work to even ride quick on the street, not to mention the longest lowest reach and riding triangle ever.

this mv was the only nightmare. nobody even makes racing rearsets for it that are taller as ive been searching endlessly. the lack of parts selection was expected, the lack of engineering and design of said parts was not. The fact it took 3 experts and months to help me get it running because of ECUSTUDIO is nothing short of mind boggling.
 

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when have I destroyed a bike? thats rather rude. every bike ive had I setup very well including the 749 and 999,which stock were absolutely unrideable they need to much of geometry change and suspension work to even ride quick on the street, not to mention the longest lowest reach and riding triangle ever.

this mv was the only nightmare. nobody even makes racing rearsets for it that are taller as ive been searching endlessly. the lack of parts selection was expected, the lack of engineering and design of said parts was not. The fact it took 3 experts and months to help me get it running because of ECUSTUDIO is nothing short of mind boggling.

The MV is what has me thinking that, rude or not, MVs are some of the easiest bikes to set up and ride...at least in my limited experience.

Additionally to dis the 999 shows a lack of research or the inability to set up a bike that is good right out of the box.

Mind you, this is only an opinion. YMMV:smoking:
 

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when have I destroyed a bike? thats rather rude. every bike ive had I setup very well including the 749 and 999,which stock were absolutely unrideable they need to much of geometry change and suspension work to even ride quick on the street, not to mention the longest lowest reach and riding triangle ever.

this mv was the only nightmare. nobody even makes racing rearsets for it that are taller as ive been searching endlessly. the lack of parts selection was expected, the lack of engineering and design of said parts was not. The fact it took 3 experts and months to help me get it running because of ECUSTUDIO is nothing short of mind boggling.

The 999 is absolutely non ride-able out of the box? Right....That is a first.
Next you will say the Daytona 675R is complete garbage out of the box....


About the MV.....where do you find these experts? Check out this forum called www.mvagusta.net. Many people there manage to make them work, ECU STUDIO or not.


You speak with a lot of authority.
 

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If you have ever seen these guys at 44 Teeth, I quite like them, make some funny videos on their You Tube channel.
Last year they did a budget battle between SRAD 750 and ZX 7R, this time around its 999S Vs 312RR, should be interesting.

Thanks for the share, it is a really nice channel. They truly love what they do and from what I understand they are independent.
 

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The MV is what has me thinking that, rude or not, MVs are some of the easiest bikes to set up and ride...at least in my limited experience.

Additionally to dis the 999 shows a lack of research or the inability to set up a bike that is good right out of the box.

Mind you, this is only an opinion. YMMV:smoking:
I think we, as forum members and MV community arm chair experts, are a lot more willing to optimize these bikes compared to the average consumer. That said, any one of us could setup an F4 in about 20 minutes to ride pretty well within the weight ranges that the suspension allows. These guys probably spent as much time as the average motorcycle consumer does to change the suspension, tuning, or anything else other than putting on a pipe and maybe a power commander, which is zero. I'd say the majority of these bikes come from the dealer with poor setup, are owned by someone who never touches it or turns some knobs one day but never reads the manual, and then they are painted with the "this bike is uncomfortable and handles poorly" brush. Anyone with an open mind about performance and weight of a bike designed in the 90s who rides a well setup F4 should be pretty blown away.
 

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Agreed Al.

ps. been a minute. how's the SPR/RR coming along?
I haven't ridden it very much, maybe 500 miles since completing. It has been really good though, the only issues have been related to the paint shop and a very slight low speed brake vibration that I haven't yet figured out.
 

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@Al-: Clean your buttons!
 

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Thank you for posting, some nice entertainment and one that makes me think I need to get a ride on a 1078 312RR..
 

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I think we, as forum members and MV community arm chair experts, are a lot more willing to optimize these bikes compared to the average consumer. That said, any one of us could setup an F4 in about 20 minutes to ride pretty well within the weight ranges that the suspension allows. These guys probably spent as much time as the average motorcycle consumer does to change the suspension, tuning, or anything else other than putting on a pipe and maybe a power commander, which is zero. I'd say the majority of these bikes come from the dealer with poor setup, are owned by someone who never touches it or turns some knobs one day but never reads the manual, and then they are painted with the "this bike is uncomfortable and handles poorly" brush. Anyone with an open mind about performance and weight of a bike designed in the 90s who rides a well setup F4 should be pretty blown away.
After watching the second clip, a guy who goes out on the track on a used bike and didn't bother changing the brake fluid isn't the sort of bloke that has his suspension setup either. Lets take this all with a grain of salt and enjoy the comedy, because that is about all it'll be good for.
 
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