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I had my 312 on the dyno today in stock form just to see what it does stock. once it was warmed up and strapped down it ended up with 161bhp at the rear wheel with a fuel curve that was good low down and a little rich at the top end. I didnt get a print out as it was a base line before I decat it and play with race ECU and pc if req.
I had the race ECU with me and just for curiosity I plugged it just to what happens. When my eyes had stopped streaming from the excess fuel it was throwing out I looked at the graph. It had lost 1hp but curve was almost identical. The fuel curve was as my eyes had predicted very rich with 2 large lean areas low down.
I took the bike home and fitted the Arrow header and mid pipe which was easy enough. The mid pipe does not meet the mounting correctly but fits OK. I put the std ECU back on and went for a quick ride.
It feels much more urgent on acceleration, with a little more noise. The air temp was only about 10c so it may be that it ran cooler and quicker because of that.
Will get it back on dyno to see the difference as soon as I get time.
I still have the orginal tailpipes on. It sounds good on the dyno at full chat.
 

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it's quite interesting how consistant things are bike to bike on the MV, mine and others on the forum started at 161/2, with the cat removed and PC we have got it to 167. The hiccup at 5000rpm is still there but not so bad that I cant live with it.
 

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Hi OTP.I have remove the cat myself and there were i feelable power increase and a Rg 3 put on with out a PC 3 and gues what when we done the feuling on a broadband meter the feuling results on the stock ECU was good all the way from 1500 to 13000 rpm.after this we fitted the PC 3 and it was only used to smooth the feuling curve with marginal adustments. So what i want to say is the following as i have said before on a other tread :Remove the cat bud keep the lamda sensor and it will be ok
 

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312 decat road test

Hi everybody
Went out for a roadtest of the decat. So with full leathers on this time I warmed it up and went for a proper ride. I have to say Im shocked at the diference its made, the induction roar through 4-5k is almost missing because it revs so much faster than before. The low down urgency is much better and on my test route there is a set of bumps which my R1 wheelies off when making progress, the MV didnt but it sure does now and with some violence too!. Cant wait to get it to the dyno and see the difference. Now Im thinking if I should replace the tailpipes. The noise from the standard pipes is now noticable louder when on the move. Engine temp stayed low below 82 but the ambient temp was only 11c. What a difference.
 

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OTP MV said:
I had my 312 ...

I took the bike home and fitted the Arrow header and mid pipe which was easy enough. The mid pipe does not meet the mounting correctly but fits OK. I put the std ECU back on ... I still have the orginal tailpipes on.
I may be missing something. I've just got reply from Motovation stating that Arrow headers and midpipe they have do not fit 312.

Here is the reply;
The midpipe does eliminate the cat on the 2007 and early MV Agustas. The 2008 312 has the cat integrated with the headers and has the O2 sensor which the older MVs do not have. So for the time being there are no midpipes available for your bike. Arrow and the other manufacturers are working on this solution and as soon as we have some news we will be sure to email you.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Best Regards,


Roland Lee
What's the scoop?
 

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You would have to get the headers and midpipe - and not just the mid pipe alone. Also need to get the correct headers that have the lambda sensor bung built in.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I did know that removing the CAT requires to change all the way from the headers since it is one piece. I have highlighted the part in the response to emphasize the issue I am referring to; there is no midpipe available for 312! If not available, it doesn't matter what else you need to get to be able to install it. As it is in my question, I have asked for the headers and midpipe together knowing that it is one piece in 312.
 

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The arrows header/mid pipe kits shown on Emoto and redracingparts.it seem to show the mid pipe with the lambda sensor plug. Perhaps you can email them to confirm. I am waiting for Moto Corse to build a ti version with the lamdba sensor port - end of the year they said.
 

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my Arrow exhaust has the sensor bung for it, and I got one of the first sets from Arrow/Emoto available for the US.... had the exhaust since march 07
 

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The arrow headers and mid pipe I bought from Emoto has the lambda sensor mount in the mid pipe there is second fixing point on the mid pipe but it is not used on the 312 if check the emoto website they list a 312 decat kit which appears to be the arrow kit. Lambda sensor screws straight in to the mid pipe.
 

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my Arrow exhaust has the sensor bung for it, and I got one of the first sets from Arrow/Emoto available for the US.... had the exhaust since march 07
Do you have it on a 312?

I've just got off the phone with Motovationusa. He confirmed, yet again, that #71338MI (midpipe) and #71339MI (headers + midpipe) are not for 312 accordign to ARROW. But they are working on a 312 version. If anyone knows otherwise please post up.
 

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decat dyno result

Back on the dyno today and its gained 6 hp at the top (167). The curve is almost the same as the cat curve until the top end.
Fuel curve is still on the rich side so no need for the race ECU (which I already purchased)
I need to finished the modified exhaust cans now to see if free flowing cans will release any more power.
On the road the bike more urgent and slighty noisier but the dyno curve doesnt show the low down improvements. Dyno guy says it may show up on smaller throttle openings, he only did 3 runs today all at full throttle.
 

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You guys are talking about installing a PC (Power Commander) on a 312?
I thought there wasn't one available yet.

I really wanted one to adjust the fuelling, since my 312 is very lean in the low revs, it pops a lot when decelerating.
 

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powercommander

how do you fit the commander with a lambder sensor in place ? does the others have a lambder as well, im looking to get the cat out of my bike, probably gutting it, so is it going to run better without it and the powercommander then ? ive also removed the return spring on the left side which has made the throttle feel much better ?
 
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