hi im looking a replacement for my 848, i saw this gorgeous '12 and '13 F4RR. For '12 3000miles for $15,300 and for '13 8675miles for $16k. which do you think is better and anything i should know or do before i purchase it?? thanks....
I went through a similar decision with 2012 f4R and 2013 f4. I ended up going with the 13 strictly because of color. if you are really going to customize it I would go with the 12 if you are going to slap some bolt ons and enjoy it fairly stock go with the 13.
I would add that 2012 was the last year before they went to fly by wire throttle and also change to eldor ECU. I have a 2012 F4RR and my friend had a 2013 F4. A few subtitle differences I have notice
- Almost no tension on 2013 F4 throttle compared to 2012 F4RR which I did not like
- Issues with sensor light for exhaust valve till he removed the whole assembly
- With the change of ECU the only option for a tuner was the rapid bike which was more expensive than the power commander.
- 2013 F4 had the quickshifter which I wish the 2012 had but I will add myself
- 2012 have the reqular Olins and not the adjustable electronics Olins shocks
- There seem to be more fuel map updates for 2013 Eldor ECU than 2012.
- I prefer the 2012 Colour Scheme better personally but that is my personal choice.
Hopefully my inputs help, either bike you choose I am sure you will be happy owning an MV. For me the 2012 I was able to map and fix some of the fueling issues cheaper than the 2013 fueling issues my friend experience. Not sure if fueling is still an issue as this was about a year ago.
I vote '13. I like the eletronic throttle - it's way more responsive than I had imagined(but can only compare to my '13 1090RR's cable throttle.) Plus it has like 37 possible combinations of settings for response, engine breaking, linear vs ramped up, etc. I also like the led running lights and the MUCH better proportioned exhaust(its shorter)... the quickshifter(if you can get it working) is a cool bonus -- plus I was told by my dealer that MV is releasing software to allow auto-blip downshifting.. I was told it would be here this month, but they were not sure on whether it would come as a free flash or a paid upgrade.
However.. someone may want to comment on any "cost cutting" measures that may have come in 2013. For instance, the frame on my '13 1090RR was mig welded vs the the had tig welded 2012. The difference definitely gives you a sense of pride in craftsmanship.. Tig welds are sooo crisp and clean -- like an artists brush stroke vs a kids goopidygoo crayon smudges.
Stick to 2012 trust me on this one. A lot less issues.
2013 is MV first attempts in electronics. = more time in workshop.
2012 spends more time on the road.
Check out the 2012 fork bottoms all custom machine not cast in the 2013.
My experience with the 2013+ F4 has been faultless. No electrical issues, only issue I have had is commuting in Cambridge the bike gets a bit hot. Changed the water pump, removed the solid V in the belly pan. Transformed the temperature issue. Still gets hot but not alarmingly so.
If you want to tinker there's plenty of scope too now that we have options to tune the ecu. It's been as reliable as my gsxr & r1 so far. Biggest downside is that the tyres on the r1 and gsxr are getting flat as they just dont get used.
I sent from Ducati 848 to the 2013 F4 RR (over 10,000 miles on it), and it is literally twice the bike the 848 is. The MV is a radical change from the 848 - handling is superior, power is superior, it is mesmerizing. Jim